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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old June 10 2014, 11:24 AM   #16
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Re: Reason for Reliant's number?

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Interestingly, TOS "Court Martial" already featured registries this high.
I guess you mean the second number from the top, which is supposed to read "1831"? I´m not so sure about that. If you look at the screencap there are two definite 8s: the third from the bottom reads "1718" and the one below is "1685". If you compare these 8s (which clearly differ from the 6s) to the number in question, it doesn´t look like "1831" but rather "1631". So I´d say all the numbers on the list are either 16XX or 17XX.
No offense, but you should really read these numbers while the scene is playing, freeze-framing individual screencaps sometimes suggest an "18" or the actual "16" (took the Blu-ray to a friend's 4K front projector and the unbiased opinion of the other two "witnesses" was "1684" and not "1864").

It most definitely is "1831" and not "1631" (as Greg Jein erroneously assumed for the Intrepid).

Since I believe in the essential Jeffries Nomenclature (first two digits indicate starship design series) the "1831" indicates a Miranda Class starship.

I also did suggest in an earlier thread, that the last two digits might just be a contact code (NCC = Naval Contact Code) which can be inherited from a destroyed or missing ship.

Excalibur (NCC-1664) was destroyed in "The Ultimate Computer", last two digits passed on to Defiant (NCC-1764) that was presumed destroyed (vanished in interphase in "The Tholian web"). The "64" contact code was inherited next by the Reliant (18th starship design, contact code "64"). YMMV.

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Old June 11 2014, 07:27 AM   #17
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Re: Reason for Reliant's number?

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Interestingly, TOS "Court Martial" already featured registries this high.
I guess you mean the second number from the top, which is supposed to read "1831"? I´m not so sure about that. If you look at the screencap there are two definite 8s: the third from the bottom reads "1718" and the one below is "1685". If you compare these 8s (which clearly differ from the 6s) to the number in question, it doesn´t look like "1831" but rather "1631". So I´d say all the numbers on the list are either 16XX or 17XX.
No offense, but you should really read these numbers while the scene is playing, freeze-framing individual screencaps sometimes suggest an "18" or the actual "16" (took the Blu-ray to a friend's 4K front projector and the unbiased opinion of the other two "witnesses" was "1684" and not "1864").
None taken And I bow to whatever the superior resolution reveals. Could you post those ten numbers (I assume you analyzed them all)?
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Old June 11 2014, 11:06 AM   #18
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NCC registries from top to bottom (not from bottom to top ): 1709, 1831, 1703, 1672, 1664 (appearance in 4K resolution), 1697 (appearance in 4K resolution), 1701, 1718, 1685 and 1700.

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Old June 11 2014, 12:23 PM   #19
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Thanks, so I just missed the 1831.
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Old June 14 2014, 01:46 PM   #20
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I always thought it was civil war, but never knew an exact reference point or could site a source.
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Old June 14 2014, 02:56 PM   #21
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But the NCC 1941 of the Bozeman is an homage to the movie 1941, right?
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Old June 14 2014, 07:34 PM   #22
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Supposedly, yes. Because someone working on TNG at the time was working on 1941 earlier. And the name Bozeman came from the hometown of Brannon Braga, IIRC.
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Old July 11 2014, 04:07 AM   #23
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Re: Reason for Reliant's number?

Read Nick Meyer's book: Reliant's registry number was Harvey Bennett's apartment number.
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