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Old July 10 2014, 01:27 AM   #1
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Skin of Evil

Just watched Skin of Evil last night. I didn't remember the dialog being that bad. Was all of 1st season like that or just that episode?
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Old July 10 2014, 04:59 AM   #2
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Love this episode. I thought giving Tasha a 'meaningless death' was absolutely the right way to go, gave it a real impact that even a regular character can simply be alive one minute and dead the next. Armus despite his physical short-comings was also a terrific villain, he oozed with maliciousness (pun intended ) and it was great to have a bad-guy who is an evil bastard just because he IS evil. A refreshing change. On the whole it's a favourite of mine.
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Old July 10 2014, 05:17 AM   #3
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The first season definitely had its share of clunky dialogue, but I don't recall this episode being particularly bad. I always thought Tasha's farewell message was well-written. Now if they just had the budget or the technology to really do Armus justice, the episode would be much more fondly remembered.
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Old July 10 2014, 06:17 AM   #4
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I've never cared for it either. It's not Spock's Brain bad or anything, but it's one of the lesser episodes of Season 1 of TNG which isn't a great season to begin with. Armus was just not handled well in my opinion.
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Old July 10 2014, 06:36 AM   #5
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Aside from Tasha's poorly executed death, I thought it was an OK episode. It's Troi's best episode of season 1. Her and Picard's interactions with Armus were a highlight.

Funny that Spock's Brain is brought up as the quintessential "bad" episode. I found The Alternative Factor and And The Children Shall Lead to be on a completely different level of awfulness. Spock's Brain is tame and somewhat enjoyable by comparison.
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Old July 10 2014, 07:57 AM   #6
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Another terrific episode from TNG's finest season. Armus is one of those inimitable Trek villains that could easily have come from a TOS script. The dialogue is fine, and in keeping with the rest of the season.
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Old July 10 2014, 08:14 AM   #7
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One of my favourite scenes in all of TNG is in the briefing room, right after Tasha dies in Sick Bay and everyone is talking about what happened ... speaking over eachother. It was a nice follow-up. Everything on the planet was dragged out for too long, and having a trashbag in an oil slick as the villian is hard to accept, at first, if I haven't watched it in a while. But this episode has its strengths, as well. For an "F.U." episode directed at Denise Crosby, it still manages to hold interest, somehow.
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Old July 10 2014, 12:45 PM   #8
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Always enjoyed this episode, with the exception of that silly red mark on Yar's face (supposed to be blood?) after she's hit. Looks painfully fake.
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Old July 10 2014, 01:15 PM   #9
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...Lost In Space Oil-Slick Bad Guy aside, this episode was not terrible...however, I wish Denise had had better career advice than to go do a "Mclaine Stevenson"...as Spock said, "...your first best destiny" ...wonder how TNG had evolved differently, had she stayed...???
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Old July 10 2014, 02:57 PM   #10
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...wonder how TNG had evolved differently, had she stayed...???
I always liked to see Yar as some kind of proto-Ro Laren, who had a similar background. I think there would have been wonderful opportunities to utilize the character, much like there were for all the other characters in the later seasons.

As for "Skin of Evil", it's easily one of my top five episodes from the first season. I love the idea of a race shedding itself from all evil. I love Armus' voice and his design. And I think it was a great idea to have a main character die in what looks like a trivial incident. Plus, I love Ron Jones' music for this episode, especially the piece for Tasha's funeral. And: The episode was written by Joseph Stefano, the brilliant writer/producer of the original Outer Limits and author of the screen adaptation of Robert Bloch's Psycho.
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Old July 10 2014, 03:52 PM   #11
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Ro > Yar. If they killed off Ro like that I would have been absolutely heart broken.
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Old July 10 2014, 04:58 PM   #12
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LOKAI of CHERON wrote: View Post
Another terrific episode from TNG's finest season. Armus is one of those inimitable Trek villains that could easily have come from a TOS script. The dialogue is fine, and in keeping with the rest of the season.
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I love "Skin of Evil" exactly the way it is. I love TNG season one exactly the way it is. I actually prefer the dialogue and creativity of season one far more than anything else the spinoffs did. With season two close behind.
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Old July 11 2014, 04:01 AM   #13
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2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
One of my favourite scenes in all of TNG is in the briefing room, right after Tasha dies in Sick Bay and everyone is talking about what happened ... speaking over eachother. It was a nice follow-up. Everything on the planet was dragged out for too long, and having a trashbag in an oil slick as the villian is hard to accept, at first, if I haven't watched it in a while. But this episode has its strengths, as well. For an "F.U." episode directed at Denise Crosby, it still manages to hold interest, somehow.
I agree with everything said above. I wonder if moving Yar's death in the episode to later would have changed anything, but the briefing room scene is a favorite also. I just wish they could have figured something else except the jam stain for blood on her face.
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Old July 11 2014, 06:23 AM   #14
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LOKAI of CHERON wrote: View Post
Another terrific episode from TNG's finest season. Armus is one of those inimitable Trek villains that could easily have come from a TOS script. The dialogue is fine, and in keeping with the rest of the season.
Exactly right.

It was cheese... but it was darned good cheese. And gutsy, too.
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Old July 11 2014, 04:19 PM   #15
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I really, really love Armus as a villain. Sure, he's got his defeciencies production-wise, but the concept is terrific. A villain who is evil simply "because", who can't be reasoned with, one who torments Troi and ridicules Geordi and who kills Tasha arbitarily for no reason other than because he can, and then just says "I'm bored now" and moves onto the next victim. Ron Gans gives an excellent vocal performance, truly putting across the character's sheer maliciousness. He's a genuinely interesting (and very different for Star Trek) type of villain. He could have stepped straight out of TOS, but in a very good way. He gives the regular cast plenty to play off.
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