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View Poll Results: What did Picard mean by 150+
150+ planets total 6 12.00%
150+ Federation members 29 58.00%
150+ Species homeworlds 12 24.00%
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Old July 4 2014, 01:07 PM   #46
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Re: What Did Picard Mean?

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First of all, the klingon and Romulan empires are considerably older than the Federation, and obviously expansionistic.
I would describe the Federation also as "obviously expansionistic."

I would describe Humans as obviously expansionistic, and as the main driving force behind federation expansion. I'm not so convinced about the rest of the Federation, especially if there are only 150 member worlds despite us having seen so many species. And the point still remains that both Empires have existed much longer, and therefore had much more opportunity to expand.
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Old July 4 2014, 09:28 PM   #47
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Re: What Did Picard Mean?

Masao Okazaki's The Starfleet Museum postulated a Federation history where the Human race reproduces so fast and founds so many colonies, that it begin to cause problems with other Federation members.

Especially given that Humans in that history basically dominates Starfleet and we use it to assist our colonial expansion.

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Old July 8 2014, 01:29 AM   #48
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I do think a high human population would explain why they have so many more colonies than the other races. Maybe most races in the UFP are in the low billions or less than a billion, while humans are a few dozen billion?

Still less than the Husnock were.
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