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Old June 27 2014, 05:48 PM   #31
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Re: Could the Fed have renegotiated the Treaty of Algeron...

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It's a shame that we have no canon look into the the Prime timeline 2380-2387, then Hobus Nova onward...

Hell, they could have made a 7 season show about Riker and the Titan with the Hobus Nova going off in the series finale.
That'd be a better series pilot, with a whole new ship and crew dealing with the fall out of the nova and the collapse of one of the major powers of the galaxy.
Ooh. Your idea is better. It could be quite the political thrller...
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Old June 27 2014, 06:09 PM   #32
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We waited 4 years between ST09 and STID. We could've had 4 seasons of a new show during that time
Big reason I favor a TV series over a movie series.

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Old June 27 2014, 07:08 PM   #33
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if the romulans only allowed the fed 1 cloaking device under the treaty ,whats the story with all the cloaked mines laid by the defiant to blockade the wormhole
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Old June 27 2014, 09:53 PM   #34
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if the romulans only allowed the fed 1 cloaking device under the treaty ,whats the story with all the cloaked mines laid by the defiant to blockade the wormhole
It may indeed have been a violation of the Treaty (or possibly a bending of it). Another possible violation was the cloaked Federation holoship in Insurrection.
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Old June 28 2014, 08:26 AM   #35
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Re: Could the Fed have renegotiated the Treaty of Algeron...

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if the romulans only allowed the fed 1 cloaking device under the treaty ,whats the story with all the cloaked mines laid by the defiant to blockade the wormhole
It may indeed have been a violation of the Treaty (or possibly a bending of it). Another possible violation was the cloaked Federation holoship in Insurrection.
I forgot all about the cloaked holoship and the mines. Makes me wonder if the Feds rules with cloaked tech is to not employ them on starships. However, I keep coming back to how lax the Romulans were with the cloaking device they loaned for the Defiant. Makes me think the Romulans don't really care, and only threaten retaliation as a way to intimidate the Federation.
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Old June 28 2014, 10:05 AM   #36
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if the romulans only allowed the fed 1 cloaking device under the treaty ,whats the story with all the cloaked mines laid by the defiant to blockade the wormhole
It may indeed have been a violation of the Treaty (or possibly a bending of it). Another possible violation was the cloaked Federation holoship in Insurrection.
I forgot all about the cloaked holoship and the mines. Makes me wonder if the Feds rules with cloaked tech is to not employ them on starships.
In TNG's "The Pegasus," it was stated that per the Treaty, the Federation agreed not to develop cloaking technology at all. But there are at least five instances in which the Federation did utilize cloaks (the Starship Pegasus, the aforementioned holoship, the concealment suits in Insurrection, and the "duck blinds" on both the Ba'ku planet & Mintaka III).
However, I keep coming back to how lax the Romulans were with the cloaking device they loaned for the Defiant. Makes me think the Romulans don't really care, and only threaten retaliation as a way to intimidate the Federation.
I think the Romulans knew every single thing the Defiant did and everywhere it went (cloaked or uncloaked)--either through information willingly volunteered by the Federation per their agreement, or covertly by the Romulans' Tal Shiar. I also think that after the Dominion War ended, the Defiant's cloak was uninstalled and returned.

The Romulans may not know about the Pegasus, the holoship on Ba'ku, and the use of cloaks for the various duck blinds...but the Federation might argue that (with the exception of the Pegasus) those were more instances of holographic technology than true cloaks. Holograms may be easily detectable via sensors while cloaks aren't.
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Old June 28 2014, 04:37 PM   #37
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Ooh. Your idea is better. It could be quite the political thrller...
You could get into some right gritty, meaty stories, from dealing with refugees, the collapse of the political structure and the power vacuum it caused, different sides vying to fill it (from hardline military officers, to a Tal Shiar operative with their own agenda, a pro-UFP group with ties to Spocks former movement, isolationists wanting to cut off all outside interference, the bastard bloodline of a former Emperor), plus Klingons rattling sabres and looking to take advantage of the turmoil, etc.
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Old June 28 2014, 09:04 PM   #38
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Re: Could the Fed have renegotiated the Treaty of Algeron...

Star Trek: Game of Thrones.

While a political Star Trek series wouldn't be my first choice, my objection to such would be having a show depicting how lovely and sweet a stale utopian Federation is.

A show about a continually contentious Federation membership who didn't really like each other, but stayed together owing to the barbarians at the gate, would be interesting.

And might have a easier time getting on the air.


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