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Old June 3 2014, 03:57 AM   #16
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Re: Speculations on Star Trek 3?

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That, or the exploration story featuring something like the garden of eden and a very difficult choice which J.D. Payne and Bob Orci have been talking about.
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Old June 3 2014, 05:32 AM   #17
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I wonder how things would have worked out if it was he [Decker], not Kirk, who handled the V'ger situation.
Enterprise would have been destroyed. Decker wanted to raise shields approaching the cloud, but Kirk overruled because it might have been seen as a provocative move.

He later lets his emotions interfere with reason when Ilia is killed. When the mechanical Ilia appears, he gets all goo-goo eyed over her and has to be snapped out of it by McCoy.

So if Kirk and McCoy hadn't been there, the film would have ended without the true nature of V'Ger being discovered. Odds are Spock wouldn't have been there either.
Good points.
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Old June 20 2014, 05:44 PM   #18
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Yeah I'd always taken it that Decker's recommendation of "defensive posture" and Kirk's counter with a more cautious strategy was the indication of what would have happened to the Decker-prise.

It also - on my billion rewatches of that movie - always seems to be the reversal point of the narrative between Kirk and Decker. Kirk had endangered the ship with his lack of knowledge and patience during the torpedo incident; here was our old Kirk back finally, and contributing his skill for the first time since his return. Decker is smart, but this showed his inexperience "out there."

Of course, I read into things.
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Old June 20 2014, 06:07 PM   #19
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I thought this was a JJ Trek thread. Does it have to turn into just picking apart ST:TMP?
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Old June 20 2014, 07:10 PM   #20
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I thought this was a JJ Trek thread. Does it have to turn into just picking apart ST:TMP?
Why not? I've seen the Abrams films picked apart in the most unlikely places on this board. I think Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a great film (my personal favorite), but it has its flaws.
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Old June 20 2014, 07:27 PM   #21
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Well, I almost didn't see ST:ID in the theater because I despised ST2009(I was eventually dragged into it by friends), and I don't intend to see JJ3.

Because ST2009 sucked and ST:ID sucked more so it's safe to bet JJ3 will suck even more.

I also believe JJ will fuckup Star Wars too.

Now, TMP is a classic. If Decker was in command the Enterprise would be conducting warp simulations to this day and VGer would have had its way with Earth.

Come to think of it, who requested/assigned Ilia to NCC 1701? Decker? Decker didn't appear to be "over" her at all. Not professional.

Fuck Decker. We are better with him in the other dimension.
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Old June 20 2014, 07:53 PM   #22
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At least you're honest babe.
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Old June 20 2014, 09:59 PM   #23
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I'm gonna make two bold predictions for Star Trek 3.

There will be...

1. Running.

2. Explosions.
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Old June 20 2014, 10:03 PM   #24
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Re: Speculations on Star Trek 3?

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
I'm gonna make two bold predictions for Star Trek 3.

There will be...

1. Running.

2. Explosions.
I'll make some even bolder ones:

1. It will make a lot of money.

2. A small, vocal minority will be vociferous in their hatred/dislike of it.

3. No matter how much money it makes, someone will try to come up with a way to call it an unqualified "failure".

4. People will continue to argue past each other as to whether "success" = "quality".
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Old June 21 2014, 12:40 AM   #25
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Re: Speculations on Star Trek 3?

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
I'm gonna make two bold predictions for Star Trek 3.

There will be...

1. Running.

2. Explosions.
I want the explosions themselves running, AND MOAR LENSFLARE!
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Old June 21 2014, 06:10 PM   #26
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Well, I almost didn't see ST:ID in the theater because I despised ST2009(I was eventually dragged into it by friends), and I don't intend to see JJ3.

Because ST2009 sucked and ST:ID sucked more so it's safe to bet JJ3 will suck even more.
JJ's doing Star Wars, you should probably call it BO1 or something.
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Old June 22 2014, 12:28 PM   #27
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So, what is next for the Abrams Trek universe? After the events of Into Darkness, what is the next popular classic retelling we could expect to see? A more malevolent Telosian story, it's the five year mission into space, so we have to expect alien contact other then what we have seen..or are we again returning to earth? Could there be another, Mirror Mirror on the horizon? A human empire vs federation dichotomy?

A corbomite maneuver style episode?

So many choices to work with...
Well, with the 'slate wiped clean' I expect a new alien race, or maybe a familiar alien race (not Klingons!) like the Andorians or another race that involves the Enterprise crew.

There will be action mixed with drama, due to a strong script that brings in many new Star Trek fans. And, will probably go down as one of the best sci-fi pictures of all time.

Kirk will mature, Spock will mature, Uhura will be relevant and tough outside her relationship with Spock, Sulu has his time to shine, McCoy has his time to shine. So, does Scotty and Chekov.

And, then....I woke up.

Who knows maybe your dream will come true.
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Old June 22 2014, 04:22 PM   #28
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I will make a prediction about the very last scene:

(Black screen)

...sound of sheets rustling...muted snore-coughs...mews of sleepwhimpers...

Sound of a man's grunt, then we see a small light illuminated...he turned it on

Woman's voice, somehow familiar... "...trouble sleeping, honey?..."
Man's voice, even more familiar... "Yeah..."

Lights fully illuminated...TOS Kirk's quarters...two forms come out from under the covers...

Kirk (Shatner) says to Rand... "...I had the most amazing dream.."
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Old June 22 2014, 04:45 PM   #29
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I will make a prediction about the very last scene:

(Black screen)

...sound of sheets rustling...muted snore-coughs...mews of sleepwhimpers...

Sound of a man's grunt, then we see a small light illuminated...he turned it on

Woman's voice, somehow familiar... "...trouble sleeping, honey?..."
Man's voice, even more familiar... "Yeah..."

Lights fully illuminated...TOS Kirk's quarters...two forms come out from under the covers...

Kirk (Shatner) says to Rand... "...I had the most amazing dream.."


But no.
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Old June 22 2014, 05:27 PM   #30
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Re: Speculations on Star Trek 3?

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I will make a prediction about the very last scene:
Is it wrong that I imagined this as a serious scene by Kirk Prime and felt overwhelmed by the sensation he must have felt? I hope he remembers it when he reaches the bridge. We wouldn't want the universe to fall through the cracks.


By the way, it would also work if it is Kirk (Pine) and Spock (Quinto) in bed at the end of The Final Frontier. I haven't seen TFF yet, which makes it a perfect substitute for ST3.

(ETA: Much creepier if Spock answers "Tell me about it...")
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