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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old June 15 2014, 12:20 AM   #46
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There's only one way to fix TFF and that's to go back in time and tell Shatner not to make that movie.
As long as I live, I will never understand this level of hatred for TFF. Nemesis was far worse than TFF ever could have been.
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Old June 15 2014, 01:14 AM   #47
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There's only one way to fix TFF and that's to go back in time and tell Shatner not to make that movie.
As long as I live, I will never understand this level of hatred for TFF. Nemesis was far worse than TFF ever could have been.
I never met a Star Trek movie I didn't like.

On *some* level or another anyway.

TFF, Nemesis, whatever. They've *all* got their strong points.

It's just some of them have just got stronger points than others.
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Old June 15 2014, 01:27 AM   #48
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

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There's only one way to fix TFF and that's to go back in time and tell Shatner not to make that movie.
As long as I live, I will never understand this level of hatred for TFF. Nemesis was far worse than TFF ever could have been.
I really don't get this.

TFF was at a level of stupid that Nemesis couldn't hope to replicate.

Nemesis isn't even my least favourite Next Gen movie, flawed as it was - Insurrection and especially Generations were worse.

TFF is just cringeworthy. Sybok, the God creature, flying to the centre of the galaxy, the effects, Uhura's dance, I could on and on. Utterly cringeworthy...
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Old June 15 2014, 01:33 AM   #49
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There's only one way to fix TFF and that's to go back in time and tell Shatner not to make that movie.
As long as I live, I will never understand this level of hatred for TFF. Nemesis was far worse than TFF ever could have been.
I don't hate TFF, and I think NEM is a lesser film. TFF is simply a broken film that no amount of nifty special effects could save.
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Old June 15 2014, 01:39 AM   #50
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I really don't get this.

TFF was at a level of stupid that Nemesis couldn't hope to replicate.

Nemesis isn't even my least favourite Next Gen movie, flawed as it was - Insurrection and especially Generations were worse.

TFF is just cringeworthy. Sybok, the God creature, flying to the centre of the galaxy, the effects, Uhura's dance, I could on and on. Utterly cringeworthy...
IMO, compared to Nemesis I'd say that Insurrection was quality entertainment and Generations was downright Oscar-worthy.
  • I found Sybok to be quite refreshing and Luckinbill's performance was superb.
  • What exactly did you find "cringe-worthy" about "God?"
  • I couldn't care less about the Enterprise flying to the center of the galaxy anymore than I could care less about it flying to the edge of the galaxy in multiple TOS episodes.
  • The effects (at least the ones in space) were pretty horrible, I'll give you that.
  • The only problem I have with Uhura's dance is that they didn't let Nichols actually sing the song.
As in all things, your mileage might vary.
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Old June 15 2014, 10:30 PM   #51
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I really don't get this.

TFF was at a level of stupid that Nemesis couldn't hope to replicate.

Nemesis isn't even my least favourite Next Gen movie, flawed as it was - Insurrection and especially Generations were worse.

TFF is just cringeworthy. Sybok, the God creature, flying to the centre of the galaxy, the effects, Uhura's dance, I could on and on. Utterly cringeworthy...
IMO, compared to Nemesis I'd say that Insurrection was quality entertainment and Generations was downright Oscar-worthy.
  • I found Sybok to be quite refreshing and Luckinbill's performance was superb.
  • What exactly did you find "cringe-worthy" about "God?"
  • I couldn't care less about the Enterprise flying to the center of the galaxy anymore than I could care less about it flying to the edge of the galaxy in multiple TOS episodes.
  • The effects (at least the ones in space) were pretty horrible, I'll give you that.
  • The only problem I have with Uhura's dance is that they didn't let Nichols actually sing the song.
As in all things, your mileage might vary.
Indeed it does, but that's what makes life interesting !

TFF was bad in big, broad, bold, garish strokes. Nemesis failed in rather mundane ways...
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Old June 16 2014, 12:13 AM   #52
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Trying to improve Star Trek V wouldn't cause the original theatrical version to cease to exist. Time travel is impossible.

The sight of a middle aged Uhura, stark naked, doing a fan dance for some grubby alien bandits, is I'm afraid burned into memory. Much like interrupting your parents having sex when you were a kid. No amount of therapy will help.

I wholeheartedly endorse re-editing the film and putting the special back into SFX though. Particularly as a way of taking your mind off what I've just said... [shudders]
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Old June 16 2014, 12:16 AM   #53
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Trying to improve Star Trek V wouldn't cause the original theatrical version to cease to exist.

The image of a middle aged Uhura, stark naked, doing a fan dance for some grubby alien bandits, is I'm afraid burned into memory. Much like interrupting your parents having sex when you were a kid. No amount of therapy will help.
May we all end up looking that good when we're 57 (her age at the time).
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Old June 16 2014, 12:31 AM   #54
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May we all end up looking that good when we're 57 (her age at the time).
The big grey hairdo made her seem old before her time... Sanity restored in time for the original cast's last hoorah.
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Old June 16 2014, 01:17 AM   #55
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Her hair style in TFF was scary. I'd take the jheri curls she had in III and IV any day over that what was in V.
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Old June 16 2014, 04:10 AM   #56
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Her hair style in TFF was scary. I'd take the jheri curls she had in III and IV any day over that what was in V.
No argument there, you and ChristopherPike are spot on about the hairdo.
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Old June 21 2014, 04:49 PM   #57
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But I only hope I look as awesome as she did, hairstyle aside...
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Old June 22 2014, 02:08 PM   #58
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May we all end up looking that good when we're 57 (her age at the time).
The big grey hairdo made her seem old before her time... Sanity restored in time for the original cast's last hoorah.
Seconded... I wasn't a fan of the wild gray look, but that's near the bottom of my nitpicks with TFF.

We've got a few threads now about DEs/SEs on blu-ray. I'm wishful, but not hopeful. I'll join others who are pleading with Paramount to prove us wrong...
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