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Old June 12 2014, 11:46 AM   #31
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Re: Reusing actors and actresses in new characters

STAR TREK re-using the same actors makes sense for too many reasons to not have it be very tempting to do so. For one, Jennifer Lien, for example wore prosthetic ears for most of the time she played Kes. As far as she knew she wasn't allergic to it. Then, all of a sudden, it came on her and so the regular usage of it had to stop. An actor having an allergic reaction to being made-up as the Alien of the Week is a real concern. Using a known talent who can reliably endure it is a really good idea.

In that same vein, when an actor's been cast as a Klingon, and given his own forehead, a cast is made of their entire head. Having that cast available for other Alien appliances on the same actor must be a huge time-saver. Also, it is harder to act when your face is buried in plastic, so somebody who can do that well is even more valuable.

Also, when you know someone is reliable and can deliver for you without holding up production, or isn't a Prima Donna, or a pain-in-the-ass, otherwise, those known-qualities are an asset to the shoot. On the other hand, it can leap someone in the audience out of the episode, to recognise an actor from another episode. So, hopefully, if you give them contact lenses and body padding, it's not so noticable. But it's a two-edged sword, reusing people, there's no doubt about that. But when you've got a schedule to keep and money's tight, you don't want any surprises, that's for sure ...
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Old June 12 2014, 01:52 PM   #32
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Whatever works for a given show. It's a business, not a family.
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Old June 12 2014, 02:03 PM   #33
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Re: Reusing actors and actresses in new characters

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I wouldn't rehire anyone associated with past Trek.
I think I'm with you BillJ.

Unless they played an alien of the week type character.

We need new blood.

Depending on when the new series takes place, I'm not opposed to seeing crossover type characters though.
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Old June 12 2014, 03:33 PM   #34
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Whatever works for a given show. It's a business, not a family.
It can be a family, the actress hire to replace Gates McFadden during season two of TNG was choosen primarily because she was a personnal friend of Gene Roddenberry.



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Old June 12 2014, 10:18 PM   #35
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Re: Reusing actors and actresses in new characters

This kind of happens in a lot of long-running shows and movies...Doctor Who (most recently with Capaldi), CSI, and films such as Star Wars and the James Bond series recast supporting roles all the time. For example Joe Don Baker, who played the villain Whitaker in The Living Daylights appeared two films later as a good guy, Jack Wade.

Heck TNG's first season had two supporting actors from Wrath of Khan in in Symbiosis.
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Old June 13 2014, 01:37 AM   #36
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Re: Reusing actors and actresses in new characters

1967 or so:

"Hey, you know who would be perfect as Spock's father? Mark Lenard."

"No way. He played that Romulan last season, remember? We can't ever use him again."

"Too bad. I'll bet he would have been great, but I guess we'll never know . . . . "
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Old June 13 2014, 02:24 PM   #37
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Re: Reusing actors and actresses in new characters

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I'm struggling to envisage alternate future Trek scenarios that are as rickety an idea as this. IMHO, any kind of Berman Trek "continuation" would mothball the franchise faster than you could say... umm... mothball!
THIS.

It's high fucking time for people to accept the new continuity, and to stop blasting it because it took some chances and made Star Trek fun again as a franchise. Besides, what if Berman & Braga don't want to make any more TV shows or do any movies connected to Star Trek? Or if the actors involved in past projects want to make sure that 'They did Star Trek' isn't the only thing they have on their tombstones?

Let's let the old Trek be in the past, and let this new continuity (with all that will likely flow from it) stand.
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Old June 13 2014, 03:21 PM   #38
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This kind of happens in a lot of long-running shows and movies...Doctor Who (most recently with Capaldi), CSI, and films such as Star Wars and the James Bond series recast supporting roles all the time. For example Joe Don Baker, who played the villain Whitaker in The Living Daylights appeared two films later as a good guy, Jack Wade.
And let it be noted that Xena was the third character Lucy Lawless played on Hercules. Didn't seem to bother anyone that the show had already used the same actress twice before . . . or stop audiences from embracing the character.
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Old June 13 2014, 04:41 PM   #39
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Good point about Mark Lenard, he was also the first actor we saw in the movies (as the Klingon commander of the Amar).
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Old June 13 2014, 04:56 PM   #40
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Re: Reusing actors and actresses in new characters

I understand what BillJ and others mean about small universe syndrome, and for long running viewers it can jump you out of the show when you realise its someone who played larger role in a previous series.

Two examples would be J.G. Hertzler with the pair of Klingons he played during Enterprise or Casey Biggs who was left without Warp Drive by Enterprise in the Expanse, funnily I watched this episode the other day and was thinking of this exact problem (although I will admit it was more of a jolt to see him play someone other than Damar in Enterprise than the Mentalist episode he was in).

Im going to contradict myself though and say that Jeffery Combs I would be happy to see in Trek again as I enjoyed seeing what he could bring to so many roles and I am very much looking forward to seeing J.G. Hertzler play a human in Axanar.
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