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Old June 3 2014, 04:02 PM   #1
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TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

I don't know where I am going with this, but I was looking at a piece of office furniture (a monitor stand) and started sketching this very utilitarian ship. It's for short close contact missions.

You can see 3 shuttle doors on the side. There's 3 on the other as well making it a through deck. Most of the work space is in the secondary hull with the small upper command hull in an unusual square configuration being significantly lesser in volume in proportion to the rest of the ship.

Size and crew is yet to be determined, but I'm leaning towards a secondary hull about the same size as the excelsior's. It's certainly meant to be a work vehicle. The luxuries of a Starship are at a minimum because they're just not needed. It's meant to always be in close proximity to a starbase.
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Old June 4 2014, 07:52 PM   #2
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Re: TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

That sure looks interesting, although the square "saucer" will take some getting used to. But would your vessel actually require warp nacelles, since it´s supposed to operate close to Starbases? Impulse power might be enough - just a thought. Not having the nacelles would also make the design even more unique and unusual, which seems to be what you´re going for here.

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PS: It´s great to see one can actually draw inspiration from an office job once in a while
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Old June 4 2014, 09:22 PM   #3
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Re: TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

Kewl, design. It reminds me of Christopher Donovan's Kennedy Class Carrier...
http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...er_kennedy.jpg

I did my own version...
http://captshade.deviantart.com/art/...View-211139955

And I designed a refit of it...
http://captshade.deviantart.com/art/...View-211756035
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Old June 5 2014, 06:50 PM   #4
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Re: TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

Mario de Monti wrote: View Post
That sure looks interesting, although the square "saucer" will take some getting used to. But would your vessel actually require warp nacelles, since it´s supposed to operate close to Starbases? Impulse power might be enough - just a thought. Not having the nacelles would also make the design even more unique and unusual, which seems to be what you´re going for here.

Mario

PS: It´s great to see one can actually draw inspiration from an office job once in a while
I'm going to keep the nacelles- I'm stuck on the idea that it still has to get around faster- and maybe the outskirts of a solar system or something to that effect.

I also have trouble with that square primary section- but a small circular one looks equally odd, so I thought what the hell? Keep with the odd square.

Inspiration comes from the oddest things sometimes, eh?

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Kewl, design. It reminds me of Christopher Donovan's Kennedy Class Carrier...
http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...er_kennedy.jpg

I did my own version...
http://captshade.deviantart.com/art/...View-211139955

And I designed a refit of it...
http://captshade.deviantart.com/art/...View-211756035
That's a lot of ship. I like the refit more.

I've got a google SU (or whatever it's called now) of my ship in the works. It's letting me flesh out more details to the ship. Hopefully making it look more Star Trekky.
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Old June 5 2014, 08:02 PM   #5
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Re: TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

Mario de Monti wrote: View Post
But would your vessel actually require warp nacelles, since it´s supposed to operate close to Starbases? Impulse power might be enough - just a thought. Not having the nacelles would also make the design even more unique and unusual, which seems to be what you´re going for here.
This made me think about Spock's shuttle in TMP that utilized a warp 'sled' that detached itself so the shuttle could dock with the Enterprise. That would be an interesting design component for a smaller ship that only needs warp occasionally.
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Old June 7 2014, 06:37 AM   #6
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Re: TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

Nice design concept
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Old June 8 2014, 10:44 PM   #7
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Take a look at this baby
http://s577.photobucket.com/user/Kel...52ed1.jpg.html
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps4dc5a121.png
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...psf037ad7b.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...psd12e6f4c.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps9b9d569a.jpg

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Old June 9 2014, 05:27 AM   #8
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Re: TSFS era Shuttle/Drone Defender Carrier

^ not relavent to the OP but still a nice design there in those links
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Old June 9 2014, 06:51 AM   #9
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Getting any further on your fleashing out of the design, Patrickivan?
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Old June 9 2014, 12:51 PM   #10
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Yup- here's a pic of it so far. It's really looking too Sea Vessel like so far...

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Old June 9 2014, 02:29 PM   #11
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Mario de Monti wrote: View Post
But would your vessel actually require warp nacelles, since it´s supposed to operate close to Starbases? Impulse power might be enough - just a thought. Not having the nacelles would also make the design even more unique and unusual, which seems to be what you´re going for here.
This made me think about Spock's shuttle in TMP that utilized a warp 'sled' that detached itself so the shuttle could dock with the Enterprise. That would be an interesting design component for a smaller ship that only needs warp occasionally.
This did make me pause and consider it further- but I'm figuring the complexity for such a large ship and it hinders movement by not having warp capability.

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Nice design concept
Thanks!

I appreciate the idea behind this. You'll note on mine, the shuttle decks are port and starboard. They're also through deck. I'll have some basic interior shots soon hopefully.
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Old June 9 2014, 05:31 PM   #12
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A bit, but I thought it was going to have the saucer and nacelles, ventral side.
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Old June 9 2014, 06:03 PM   #13
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It will have a primary section and nacelles. This is all I had built to show so far.
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Old June 9 2014, 06:48 PM   #14
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I figured...But I meant that I thought they'd be placed ventral, meaning on the underside. Meaning I thought that it wouldn't look so much like a boat, when it was flipped over.
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Old June 10 2014, 12:18 AM   #15
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I had an idea for an ubership once similar to Corey Browns.

The idea would be for a third, very flat hull, like McQuarries.
This would be above and behind the saucer, with nacelle supports reaching down.

The secondary hull would be very fat and have taller, shuttlebay-type doors but for larger vessels. Like Ingram, you would see layers of these.
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