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View Poll Results: Rate Dark Mirror.
Outstanding 23 50.00%
Above Average 17 36.96%
Average 4 8.70%
Below Average 0 0%
Poor 2 4.35%
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Old May 16 2014, 02:35 AM   #121
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Re: TNG: Dark Mirror by Diane Duane Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Old May 16 2014, 02:45 AM   #122
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I once had the idea for a TV series that would have been kind of "Star Trek" crossed with "Sliders"...
I've had the thought that if Roddenberry had decided from the start to do a show about alternate histories rather than space travel, it would've been a much more sensible explanation for all the parallel Earth cultures they kept using. No need for Preservers or Hodgkins' Law or cultural contamination to explain the gangster planet or the Roman planet or the Nazi planet or whatever, just do Sliders a few decades early.
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Old May 16 2014, 08:14 AM   #123
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Sliders is desperately due a reboot. That show had SO much potential.

A Sliders Trek, on the other hand, I think would be far too niche and insider for anything more than a Myriad Universes story or fanfiction. Outside of the core fanbase, who really cares enough about subtle differences in Trek's future history? Certainly less than would a real-world set version.
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Old May 16 2014, 10:16 PM   #124
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I liked Sliders up until the gimmicky one where they went to "Communist Earth" where the money was red.
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Old May 16 2014, 11:07 PM   #125
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I liked Sliders up until the gimmicky one where they went to "Communist Earth" where the money was red.
Um, that was part 2 of the pilot. Unless I'm forgetting a second communism-themed episode later.
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Old May 17 2014, 07:45 PM   #126
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I think that was a "whoosh".
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Old June 2 2014, 05:32 AM   #127
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I voted Outstanding because I thought it was much better than Above Average. I think it's a really good book that I haven't read in a long time and will need to revisit. I think my only real complaint about Dark Mirror was that I found the climax a little underwhelming. I was hoping for Picard and his mirror self to go head-to-head in a more "clash of the bald titans". It didn't need to be all-out action but maybe a little more of them trying to outwit one another.
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Old June 3 2014, 02:26 AM   #128
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Re: TNG: Dark Mirror by Diane Duane Review Thread (Spoilers!)

I just recognized another, major, divergence between Dark Mirror and the current novelverse. Duane's novel is one of the last books to feature a native civilization at Alpha Centauri. (Dark Mirror's Terrans end up exterminating the Centaurans and taking their worlds, the first act of genocide against another species they commit.)
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Old June 3 2014, 08:02 PM   #129
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^Don't forget that Dark Mirror says that the Terran Empire conquered their entire Milky Way Galaxy. How does that make any sense? They're never said to have any quantum slipstream drive, coaxial warp drive, jaunt drive, transwarp conduits, subspace tunnels, or anything that would conveniently allow them transportation throughout the galaxy. And how could they conquer everyone in two completely unexplored quadrants in a matter of only one century?
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Old June 3 2014, 08:49 PM   #130
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It's admittedly been a while since I read it, but my recollection is that the Empire had conquered our section of the galaxy but lacked the capability to expand any further due to not having the tech to get to the really far away places fast enough to make conquest feasible. It would be like conquering North America but not having boats or planes to get you to Europe or Asia.
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Old June 3 2014, 10:33 PM   #131
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Yeah, my impression was more that they'd grown as large as it was feasible for an empire to get. It's not so much about travel distances -- after all, the worlds on the fringes of the empire would still have plenty of uncharted worlds next to them -- but more about the empire's lines of communication, supply, and administration being stretched to the breaking point by the sheer size of it. Although I haven't read it in a while either.
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