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Old May 30 2014, 09:00 PM   #1
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Manned Dragon

They're calling it "Dragon V2"

Elon Musk expects an unmanned test flight by 2015, with a manned flight by 2016. If they're as consistent with this as they have been in the past, we'll probably start seeing manned Dragon flights on a reusable Falcon 9 by 2018.

It occurs to me that the first reusable space shuttle was named "Enterprise." Perhaps the first commercial space capsule should be named "Millennium Falcon"?
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Old May 30 2014, 09:09 PM   #2
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Don't be so predictable! Make it "Toothless" because it's a dragon! Actually, even that might not be a good name, as Toothless could not fly without Hiccup, while SpaceX starts with robots.

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Old May 30 2014, 10:30 PM   #3
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It occurs to me that the first reusable space shuttle was named "Enterprise." Perhaps the first commercial space capsule should be named "Millennium Falcon"?
Where do you think they got the idea to call the rocket "Falcon"?
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Old May 30 2014, 11:42 PM   #4
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This is awesome. Come on, SpaceX!
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Old May 30 2014, 11:43 PM   #5
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Where do you think they got the idea to call the rocket "Falcon"?
Are you serious? Too bad the capsule wasn't ready by 2001, then it could have been "Millennium."
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Old May 31 2014, 01:49 AM   #6
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Just when the Russians start talking crap, along comes SpaceX to set things right..
I remember when the Shuttle was retired, a news program interviewed an Eneriga engineer.. he likened the USA using Russian spacecraft to get to the ISS as a rich man catching a ride in an old VW bug to get to the dealership where his new Mercedes was waiting.. It does look like the new Mercedes is nearly ready for delivery...
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Old May 31 2014, 09:05 AM   #7
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Hail Hydra! -- indeed

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...wvzufnkibi.jpg

The implication would seem to be that future versions will include module variations (many heads) so that they can be easily purposed for different mission objectives, manned or unmanned -- LEO, lunar orbit and/or landing, Mars orbit and/or landing, etc.
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Old May 31 2014, 10:48 AM   #8
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^ Zaprudder, that image you linked reminds me of the Orion shuttle in 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY. All it needs is the "Pan Am" logo on the side. (Except the company no longer exists. The movie LOST IN SPACE had a similar Pan Am moment when the splash screen of Will's hand computer showed the Silicon Graphics logo.)
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Old May 31 2014, 11:19 AM   #9
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Re: Manned Dragon

Is it just me, or the "V2" moniker has very unfortunate associations?
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Old May 31 2014, 01:22 PM   #10
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Is it just me, or the "V2" moniker has very unfortunate associations?
And many public buildings do not have a 13th floor.
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Old May 31 2014, 02:51 PM   #11
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^ Zaprudder, that image you linked reminds me of the Orion shuttle in 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY. All it needs is the "Pan Am" logo on the side. (Except the company no longer exists. The movie LOST IN SPACE had a similar Pan Am moment when the splash screen of Will's hand computer showed the Silicon Graphics logo.)
Well, pretty much all they really have in common is that both are phallus shaped. The Orion was supposed to be nuclear powered IIRC and the wings on the Hydra are really solar panels, which would get ripped off, Skylab fashion, in the atmosphere. Otherwise, it's still spam in a can in space.

It looks like the Hydra is intended to re-enter on its base, which makes me wonder about stability. If so, spaceship development looks even more likely to be heading toward the sort of designs popular in the 1950s.

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Is it just me, or the "V2" moniker has very unfortunate associations?
As someone commented elsewhere and I plagiarised: Hail Hydra!
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Old May 31 2014, 03:21 PM   #12
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That Hydra image is pure conjecture anyway, not originating with SpaceX.
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Old May 31 2014, 04:15 PM   #13
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How about naming it Fafnir?

SpaceX has been keeping the dreams--private enterprise's innovativeness and the exploration of space--alive. In a way, it's good, because private corporations can act more quickly than governments. But, it's a two-edged sword, because who could control an unanswerable CEO, if she/he gets lured to the "dark side"?

Also, corporations often become tight-lipped in the presence of rivals.
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Old May 31 2014, 04:25 PM   #14
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How about naming it Fafnir?

SpaceX has been keeping the dreams--private enterprise's innovativeness and the exploration of space--alive. In a way, it's good, because private corporations can act more quickly than governments. But, it's a two-edged sword, because who could control an unanswerable CEO, if she/he gets lured to the "dark side"?

Also, corporations often become tight-lipped in the presence of rivals.

Mars still remains a dream of NASA, although they claim it is still a long way off.

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2...035130933.html

Personally, I don't understand what the difference is between a mission to the Moon and a mission to Mars, other than distance and duration. As I've suggested before, they could even put another space station or two between the Earth and Mars and then just leapfrog there, a step at a time, to conserve and accumulate supplies for the colony.
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Old May 31 2014, 05:28 PM   #15
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As I've suggested before, they could even put another space station or two between the Earth and Mars and then just leapfrog there, a step at a time, to conserve and accumulate supplies for the colony.
Yeah, um, you're going to have to explain that a little better. The closest we can get to "putting a spacestation between Earth and Mars" is to build one at one of Earth's lagrange points. It's not like Earth and Mars sit in one place and you can just build a station at the halfway point between them. They orbit the sun at different rates and are constantly moving in relation to each other.
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