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Old April 5 2014, 05:02 AM   #16
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Re: Positronic androids

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The only reasonable conclusion is that Data is a serial killer and keeps brains as trophies.
He's a regular Hannibal Lectroid.
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Old April 5 2014, 06:08 PM   #17
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What about Akharin/Flint/Emil Vaslovik as shown in Immortal Coil and the Cold Equations trilogy?
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Old April 5 2014, 08:58 PM   #18
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Akharin can resurrect positronic brains after cascade failure but if he could incept them then why did he need a team to create Rhea? I also thought that he said that he could not replicate making a holonomic android why Data, via Soong's memories should be able to
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Old May 1 2014, 12:47 AM   #19
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Akharin was a human, while Data was an android himself. He may, from experience, have been able to fill in any gaps in the technology.
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Old May 1 2014, 07:52 PM   #20
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Akharin may not have the skills to incept a positron brain else he could have done it before Soong did.
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Old May 29 2014, 02:25 AM   #21
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Akharin, the long-lived (immortal?) human knew how to construct them. And the Breen may have constructed an android-producing factory, which was destroyed. But, some of the plans may have continued to exist in several different places.
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Old May 29 2014, 07:25 PM   #22
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The Breen found the android factory in "the persistence of memory". In that trilogy the Breen could not incept them so they went the telepresence route Akharin constructed androids before Soong but were they positronic?
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Old May 31 2014, 02:34 PM   #23
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The Breen found the android factory in "the persistence of memory". In that trilogy the Breen could not incept them so they went the telepresence route Akharin constructed androids before Soong but were they positronic?
You are right. I had forgotten that the Breen seem to have found that factory. It had probably been constructed by Lore.
The Breen were able to activate at least 3 postitronic androids and to program them. It wasn't clear to me how well their scientists understood their workings.
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Old May 31 2014, 07:48 PM   #24
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The Breen found the android factory in "the persistence of memory". In that trilogy the Breen could not incept them so they went the telepresence route Akharin constructed androids before Soong but were they positronic?
You are right. I had forgotten that the Breen seem to have found that factory. It had probably been constructed by Lore.
The Breen were able to activate at least 3 postitronic androids and to program them. It wasn't clear to me how well their scientists understood their workings.
In which novel are you referring to? In the middle one the four androids were run via telepresence. In "persistence of memory" I did not recall any functional Breen androids that Soong did not program. I also thought Data claimed the Breen were not close to incepting positronic brains.
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Old June 6 2014, 04:41 PM   #25
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It was one of the Cold Fusion series of novels, I think. The Breen used them to threaten the leaders secretly meeting on Orion.
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Old June 6 2014, 06:37 PM   #26
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Re: Positronic androids

Cold Equations.
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Old June 6 2014, 07:41 PM   #27
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None of the Breen androids in the novel had positronic brains. I thought there were 4 telepresence agents running the androids where only 2 made it into the Orion bank vault.
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Old June 7 2014, 02:21 AM   #28
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^That sounds right to me.
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Old July 23 2014, 06:13 PM   #29
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Let's talk about cascade failure. This is a "irreversible" hardware event? Since Ahkarin can reverse this do you need to reinitialized the OS and copy over memory engrams?
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Old July 24 2014, 11:52 PM   #30
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Moriarty was mentioned.
Now would it have been possible to download his personality matrix into a positronic brain and give him an Android body?

if so it might have been considered a tad too dangerous to give a criminal mastermind , fictional or not, a nearly indestructible body with super strength, but they should have at least considered it.
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