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Old May 11 2014, 11:14 AM   #61
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I believe it could be argued that being conservative is in a way anti-roddenberry, anti-star trek.
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Old May 11 2014, 12:25 PM   #62
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^Prime Pike didn't want women on the bridge

I didn't realize this was a zombie thread until I saw a Red Ranger post


I was thinking this was old news


Anyway, I don't really care either way. I know individuals who lean either way and were still wonderful individuals.
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Old May 11 2014, 02:40 PM   #63
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Old May 11 2014, 08:57 PM   #64
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I believe it could be argued that being conservative is in a way anti-roddenberry, anti-star trek.
Oh, I doubt it. I've a friend who refers to himself as an arch-conservative and swears by Rush Limbaugh, but he loves ST TNG. People are always more interesting than we give credit for, especially when we're distracted by labels. Conservative prudence has its place. (You won't find many 'prudent' conservatives on TV admittedly, but the medium itself isn't one amicable to measured thought.)
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Old May 11 2014, 09:12 PM   #65
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Amen, Smellincoffee.
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Old May 15 2014, 02:46 PM   #66
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I believe it could be argued that being conservative is in a way anti-roddenberry, anti-star trek.
Bullshit.
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Old May 16 2014, 02:37 AM   #67
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I believe it could be argued that being conservative is in a way anti-roddenberry, anti-star trek.
Bullshit.
Yeah, I can't agree with that, either. Lots of people have dreams, and Star Trek is a hopeful vision of the future for humanity. That's something a lot of people, regardless of political affiliation, can get behind.

Plus, starships. Starships are cool.
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Old May 16 2014, 03:33 PM   #68
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People are too complex to say "because this person believes in X, then they must hate this unrelated Y."

I'm a moderate republican agnostic with a gun collection and an insatiable science fiction habit. I Love Trek's hopeful message. Don't even try to pigeonhole me.
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Old May 17 2014, 06:03 PM   #69
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I believe it could be argued that being conservative is in a way anti-roddenberry, anti-star trek.
Bullshit.
Yeah, I can't agree with that, either. Lots of people have dreams, and Star Trek is a hopeful vision of the future for humanity. That's something a lot of people, regardless of political affiliation, can get behind.

Plus, starships. Starships are cool.
I agree. Everyone should be entitled to their opinion, as long as they can keep the starships on an even keel.

Starships are really cool!
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Old May 17 2014, 07:42 PM   #70
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I regard myself as left of center but still mainstream, because every stream has a left bank and a right bank. The problem is that so much of our public discourse is dominated by people who have left the stream and are off in the weeds somewhere.
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Old May 18 2014, 03:32 AM   #71
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I've a friend who refers to himself as an arch-conservative and swears by Rush Limbaugh, but he loves ST TNG. People are always more interesting than we give credit for, especially when we're distracted by labels.
People who adopt ideology have labeled themselves.
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Old May 18 2014, 03:46 AM   #72
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I got the impression that mainstream science fiction got more and more conservative in recent years. In the previous decades, science fiction stories were further "out there", but now I read stuff like "Earth needs to be in danger so audiences can relate", etc... Just look at the conceptual differences between original Battlestar Galactica and the reboot, for example.

Same thing happened with Trek. No money, utopian society, etc... All that got reduced more and more to the point where Uhura orders Budweiser in a bar. At some point in Trek, future humans were supposed to appear alien to us in the audience. But now it's a trend to make things look like nothing will change in 300 years, and that the only difference is the technology, but not the state of society.
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Old May 18 2014, 11:25 AM   #73
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Labels require consistency and causality. Which in humans isn't there. That's why sometimes discussions are a hopeless failure, because someone goes "you have a neo conservative opinion on issue A, so your neo liberal opinion on issue B is nonsense" They require and treat people like they have to fit the label they gave them.
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Old May 18 2014, 02:54 PM   #74
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I regard myself as left of center but still mainstream, because every stream has a left bank and a right bank. The problem is that so much of our public discourse is dominated by people who have left the stream and are off in the weeds somewhere.
Oh I love that, I'm stealing it for a facebook meme.
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Old May 18 2014, 02:58 PM   #75
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Eh, there used to be a post between my two.
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