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Old May 10 2014, 11:57 PM   #16
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Re: Playmates Star Trek action figures discussion thread

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Can you educate me? - what was the "1701" debacle?
It was really only a bother for completists and Mint-on-mint-card collectors, since all three of the limited-to-1701-pieces were headswaps that could easily be remade by customizers and openers.

Essentially it meant that fans intent on owning every single figure releases were now capped at 1701 people. Even less because no one could be guaranteed of finding all three rarities for their own collection, at least not at retail prices.

Playmates eventually re-released the rarities in a gift box:
http://figurefanzero.com/2012/12/13/...-by-playmates/
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Old May 11 2014, 12:47 AM   #17
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Thanks Therin and drt. This does all sound vaguely familiar now that I read it. Truth be told, I always thought the numbering of the Playmates figures in general was tacky.
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Old May 11 2014, 08:27 AM   #18
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And I seem to remember that the decision to re-release the rarities as a box actually pissed off the 1701 guys who bought the originals, because suddenly their "limited edition collector's pieces" weren't quite so limited edition anymore. So in the end nobody was happy.
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Old May 11 2014, 10:11 AM   #19
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Truth be told, I always thought the numbering of the Playmates figures in general was tacky.
Totally agree. I could never grasp the point. Were people supposed to search the pegs to get the lowest numbers possible? Were the aftermarkets bring in additional profits for low or matching numbers? Personally, I used to go through the pegs seeking the best paint jobs possible, as opposed to those who wanted the most pristine cardbacks.

When I heard that the numbers were printed on the feet before being attached to figures, and that some people were getting figures with a number on each foot (as I eventually did with a Starfleet Seska), it seemed to negate any real collectability.
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Old May 11 2014, 07:23 PM   #20
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Yeah, I never really got where they were going with the numbering thing. As I recall the numbers on first couple of series of TNG figures got into the 300,000's - anything connected to a popular property with diehard collectors they make that many of will ever be rare enough in this day and age to be worth much down the line. I sometimes wondered if the figures just happened to be numbered as part of the standard production process, and Playmates seized on that to try and boost the "collectibility".
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I sometimes wondered if the figures just happened to be numbered as part of the standard production process
Nah, as I said, male Starfleet legs were all numbered at once, so there wasn't even a guarantee that every figure had every number represented.

to try and boost the "collectibility".
It was exactly that. It certainly did excite a section of the collectors, and that's all you need to create word-of-mouth publicity. Except when it backfires, like the 1701s.
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Old May 12 2014, 06:50 PM   #22
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I sometimes wondered if the figures just happened to be numbered as part of the standard production process
Nah, as I said, male Starfleet legs were all numbered at once, so there wasn't even a guarantee that every figure had every number represented.
Ahhh... I understand now what you were saying. I still was thinking that each number was specific for a particular figure during production.

I guess that means that I've perhaps been inflating the number of male figures produced overall, so if instead of the assembly involving "Geordi" legs, it was "generic Starfleet male" legs used, then there are probably much fewer than the 300K number of each I mentioned earlier.
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