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Old April 28 2014, 01:36 PM   #166
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Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

T-A-N-A-K-A!!!!

Even when he doesn't have his best stuff, he still strikes out 11.

The kid's worth every dime so far...
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Old April 28 2014, 03:29 PM   #167
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Dice-K went 18-3 the first year...
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Old April 28 2014, 07:48 PM   #168
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I put McHugh on my fantasy team in the absence of Scott Feldman. He did not disappoint. Houston is getting better in a hurry. I wasn't a big fan of their new/old logo and colors at first but they've really grown on me.
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Old April 28 2014, 07:49 PM   #169
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Dice-K went 18-3 the first year...
So what happened to him?
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Old April 28 2014, 07:52 PM   #170
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Dice-K went 18-3 the first year...
So what happened to him?
Injuries and the Red Sox pitching staff trying to make him change to conform to their style instead of being more adaptable.
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Old April 28 2014, 08:30 PM   #171
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Dice-K went 18-3 the first year...
So what happened to him?
Injuries and the Red Sox pitching staff trying to make him change to conform to their style instead of being more adaptable.
Yeah, just read up a little... TJ surgury, forearm problems... eesh...
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Old April 28 2014, 09:06 PM   #172
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That's kinda the big knock on Japanese pitchers: compared to their American counterparts, they've got a million miles on their arm before they come over here. They don't get babied like they do in the minors here, so they've been going with huge pitch counts (200+ a game), throw a ton more in side sessions, and have been doing it since like 14 years old.

So when you get a 27 year old pitcher with that resume, sounds awesome. Except he's got more miles on the arm than the 34 year old guy from the US.

Not to say he won't continue to be good, or avoid injury, or whatever, just that that's the big risk with Japanese pitchers. All while adapting to a totally different style of how to manage pitchers, so they aren't working out the same way, or throwing the same number of pitchers in side sessions or the same number of times a week, etc. Seems to burn them out pretty quick.

So yeah, Dice-K was great the first year (although annoying to watch, liked to nibble vice attacking batters), and after that, just wasn't the same. Probably pitching through injuries, then actually injured, and then just done. Slight bounce-back now, but hasn't re-established himself yet.

Just wanted to point out that you shouldn't get TOO high about the good results so far. May very well be for real, but may just be a function of being his first time through the league, as well. And with the miles on the arm, no telling when the good times will come to a sudden halt. Not the equivalent of picking up a 26 year old Felix Hernandez...
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Old April 29 2014, 12:27 AM   #173
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Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Bryce Harper is out until early July (at the soonest).

Way to go, Matt Williams.
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Old April 29 2014, 12:19 PM   #174
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Bryce Harper is out until early July (at the soonest).

Way to go, Matt Williams.
At least he hustled though.
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Old April 29 2014, 05:25 PM   #175
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Sonny Gray is a beast. Love that kid.
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Old April 30 2014, 09:34 PM   #176
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3: Wins by CC Sabathia, who has a 5.11 ERA and is getting 6.17 runs of support per start.

0: Wins by Jeff Samardzija, who has a 1.98 ERA and is getting 2.33 runs of support per start.
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Old April 30 2014, 09:55 PM   #177
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3: Wins by CC Sabathia, who has a 5.11 ERA and is getting 6.17 runs of support per start.

0: Wins by Jeff Samardzija, who has a 1.98 ERA and is getting 2.33 runs of support per start.
Yup...
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Old April 30 2014, 10:00 PM   #178
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Wins are the mark of a great pitcher, though.
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Old April 30 2014, 10:28 PM   #179
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3: Wins by CC Sabathia, who has a 5.11 ERA and is getting 6.17 runs of support per start.

0: Wins by Jeff Samardzija, who has a 1.98 ERA and is getting 2.33 runs of support per start.
Yup...
And what does that tell us, class?

It tells us that pitcher wins are meaningless.

Thus endeth the lesson.
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Old May 4 2014, 03:26 AM   #180
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Five games of impotent offense. I'm not worried about the Braves right now because it is May but they really have to get the bats going.
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