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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old April 27 2014, 10:44 AM   #16
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

I would select STAR TREK (2009) to introduce the uninitiated to STAR TREK.
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Old April 27 2014, 11:38 AM   #17
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

Honestly, start with TWOK. That way, when they realize how awesome Star Trek is, you can let them know that TWOK was just one movie in a trilogy. If they aren't madly in love with ST by TVH, then there's truly something wrong with them.
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Old April 27 2014, 11:41 AM   #18
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First Contact, ironically.
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Old April 28 2014, 01:17 PM   #19
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

TWOK, all day long and work through all the TOS movies, then (if one's partner is still up for it) watch a few TNG episodes from seasons 3 & 4, the BOBW 2 parter then proceed directly to Generations followed by JJ Trek.

That's how I introduced my other half to Trek.
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Old April 28 2014, 02:29 PM   #20
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

I'm in minority, but still...
I think, the best beginning is The Motion Picture. The reasons, why:
1. Gene Roddenberry and his vision.
2. The best cinematography and the best music.
3. The best example of what is the Star Trek villian should be.
4. The best basis for discussions and questions to Trekkies

TMP is the best presentation for Star Trek world. This movie can lead to good discussion and arouse interest to other movies and shows.
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Old April 28 2014, 03:19 PM   #21
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

In an ideal world I would agree, but sci-fi is my girlfriends equivalent of romcoms to me, and despite my utter love of TMP I just know she would have totally hated it. I've since shown her some of the best scenes from it (3 klingon cruisers, flyby) and she didn't really get why I loved them so much.
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Old April 28 2014, 06:48 PM   #22
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

The Godfather.

Then, when it finished, I'd say 'Wasn't that fantastic. Shall I put some Trek on now ?'

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Old April 28 2014, 07:43 PM   #23
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12 years ago, I started with TWOK and I'm now married to her and she's a big fan (sees movies on opening night with me, goes to conventions, watched DS9 all the way through).

I'd say start there. For an intro, TMP is a little too slow (although we did go back and watch and she really enjoyed it). TVH is a little too atypical. TUC is a little too pretentious. Go with the "Khan Trilogy" then back to TMP. Then go forward with the others.

Worked for me.
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Old April 28 2014, 11:53 PM   #24
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

None of the above.



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This friend has seen the JJ Abrams movies, but was curious about the other movies aswell.
If one has seen the JJ movies, there are no other movies. Simple as that.
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Old April 29 2014, 12:07 AM   #25
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Most everyone I know who aren't Star Trek fans will watch Star Trek 4, it is a lighthearted place to start.
Agreed. In my experience, TVH is the most accessible film. It's a feel-good movie that appeals to everybody, not just veteran Trek fans.

Remember, we're not talking here about which movie is best, or has the best music. We're talking which movie works best for folks who don't have a lot of experience with Trek.

I love TUC, but it strikes me as an odd film to use as an introduction, since it's all about bringing the saga of the original crew to a close. Beginning with TUC is like starting with the final chapter and farewells . . . . .
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Old April 29 2014, 12:35 AM   #26
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I'd say either TVH or FC. Both do very well with non Trekkies and manage to tell a complete story that is not overly dependent on having seen anything else of Trek.
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Old April 29 2014, 12:51 AM   #27
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mendelin wrote: View Post
I'm in minority, but still...
I think, the best beginning is The Motion Picture. The reasons, why:
1. Gene Roddenberry and his vision.
2. The best cinematography and the best music.
3. The best example of what is the Star Trek villian should be.
4. The best basis for discussions and questions to Trekkies

TMP is the best presentation for Star Trek world. This movie can lead to good discussion and arouse interest to other movies and shows.
The problem is, our hypothetical layman doesn't care about Roddenberry's "vision" or what a Star Trek villain should be. You want to show them what Star Trek is, not what it should be.
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Old April 29 2014, 12:52 AM   #28
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

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I'm in minority, but still...
I think, the best beginning is The Motion Picture. The reasons, why:
1. Gene Roddenberry and his vision.
2. The best cinematography and the best music.
3. The best example of what is the Star Trek villian should be.
4. The best basis for discussions and questions to Trekkies

TMP is the best presentation for Star Trek world. This movie can lead to good discussion and arouse interest to other movies and shows.
The problem is, our hypothetical layman doesn't care about Roddenberry's "vision" or what a Star Trek villain should be. You want to show them what Star Trek is, not what it should be.
In that case, show them Starship Mine.
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Old April 29 2014, 02:09 AM   #29
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Re: Which movie would you use to introduce someone with Star Trek?

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I'm in minority, but still...
I think, the best beginning is The Motion Picture. The reasons, why:
1. Gene Roddenberry and his vision.
2. The best cinematography and the best music.
3. The best example of what is the Star Trek villian should be.
4. The best basis for discussions and questions to Trekkies

TMP is the best presentation for Star Trek world. This movie can lead to good discussion and arouse interest to other movies and shows.
The problem is, our hypothetical layman doesn't care about Roddenberry's "vision" or what a Star Trek villain should be. You want to show them what Star Trek is, not what it should be.
Absolutely true. Most people, at the intro point, aren't going to care about the vision or philosophy. In fact, that can be off-putting at first, because it comes off as pretentious and lame. Get them hooked on the characters and the fun first, then introduce them to Picard's ponderous speeches. Haha!
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Old April 29 2014, 02:22 AM   #30
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mendelin wrote: View Post
I'm in minority, but still...
I think, the best beginning is The Motion Picture. The reasons, why:
1. Gene Roddenberry and his vision.
2. The best cinematography and the best music.
3. The best example of what is the Star Trek villian should be.
4. The best basis for discussions and questions to Trekkies

TMP is the best presentation for Star Trek world. This movie can lead to good discussion and arouse interest to other movies and shows.
The problem is, our hypothetical layman doesn't care about Roddenberry's "vision" or what a Star Trek villain should be. You want to show them what Star Trek is, not what it should be.
Absolutely true. Most people, at the intro point, aren't going to care about the vision or philosophy. In fact, that can be off-putting at first, because it comes off as pretentious and lame. Get them hooked on the characters and the fun first, then introduce them to Picard's ponderous speeches. Haha!
Exactly. You don't want to make watching Star Trek sound like eating spinach, that it's something you ought to do because it's good for you. "You need to watch it because of the vision and the philosophy and all that."

Better to go with. "Trust me, you don't have to be a Trekkie to enjoy this one."

If later on they want to explore Star Trek in greater depth, that's great. But this isn't a college assignment; the idea isn't to be able to write an essay on the movie's themes afterwards!
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