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Old April 22 2014, 01:20 PM   #61
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But more importantly, the novels were consistent with each other. The books all had a timeline in the back, and I made an effort to keep the "Marvel novelverse" coherent and consistent. So, for example, Dr. Octopus's appearance in the "Doom's Day" trilogy picked up on his previous appearance in Diane Duane's The Octopus Agenda.
That timeline wasn't in all the novels. The books I have have the timeline in the books starting around the 1997 printings. But it was from that timeline that I found "Mutant Empire" occurred before "The Venom Factor".
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Old April 22 2014, 06:03 PM   #62
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Okay, then. I was going by the few that I've read, basically just Diane Duane's Spidey trilogy and her X-Men novel (Empire's End), plus PAD's Hulk: What Savage Beast. I hadn't realized there was a unified "novelverse."
Yup. There was no way we were going to keep up with the comics (and that wasn't always desirable, especially with stuff like the Spider-clone and Heroes Reborn), but I thought it was important for the novels to all be consistent with one another. I think it added to the texture.

And we didn't overdo it, either. The only things that were really significantly serialized were the various trilogies, and those only internally. But if you read, for example, What Savage Beast, the first Doom's Day book, Abominations, and my short story "Playing it SAFE," there's a through-line there for the Hulk if you read all of them.


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That timeline wasn't in all the novels. The books I have have the timeline in the books starting around the 1997 printings. But it was from that timeline that I found "Mutant Empire" occurred before "The Venom Factor".
Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Old April 22 2014, 06:14 PM   #63
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After reading Christopher's comments on Pocket's policies concerning continuity, I was wondering if KRAD could comment on the policies for the line of Marvel books he was in charge of. Were they meant to happen in the comic continuity, the concurrent cartoon continuity, some other continuity or one of their own? Also, are they written as stand alone stories that don't have to stay consistent with each other like some Trek novels or do they try to stay consistent with each other?
The Marvel novels I edited were in a modified comics continuity -- basically, we hewed as close as we could to the comics while still mostly dealing with the archetypal versions of the characters. For this reason, even though the comics at the time were doing things like the Spider-clone storyline and Reed Richards being dead and Ant-Man being in the Fantastic Four, not to mention the whole Age of Apocalypse and Heroes Reborn/Return thing, our Spider-Man novels just had Peter Parker as Spidey in them while married to Mary Jane, our FF novels all had the original foursome in them, etc.
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Same deal with the later Marvel novels from Pocket Books. You couldn't tie them in too closely with the most recent comic book storylines because the novels would be out of date by the time the finished book hit the shelves. You basically just tried to present a "timeless" version of the characters that was more or less up to date.

For example: At the point where I was writing my FF novel for Pocket Books, Sue and Johnny had switched powers in the comics. I assumed (correctly) that this was just a temporary plot twist and that everything would be back to normal by the time my book came out, so I gave Sue and Johnny their traditional powers. Which turned out to be the right call!

I also acknowledged that Reed and Sue had two kids by that point, but I quickly shuffled the kids offstage to avoid confusing any readers who might have only seen the movies . . . .
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Old April 22 2014, 06:56 PM   #64
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I covered this earlier in the thread, but at least three of the four Spider-Man novels Pocket did -- mine, Keith's, and Jim Butcher's -- were all consistent with the then-ongoing J. Michael Straczynski run on The Amazing Spider-Man, but all set at a point where things were at a comfortable status quo and before the big changes that set in shortly before our books were commissioned, like Spidey joining the Avengers and getting organic webbing like in the movies (a plot point that even the comics never followed up on after establishing it). Although every one of us chose the period right after Mary Jane had decided to begin working in the theater. And we all did so independently of one another.
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Old April 22 2014, 08:35 PM   #65
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^ Yeah, it amused me when I realized that all three of us chose more or less the same general point in continuity to latch onto.....
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Old April 24 2014, 10:06 PM   #66
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SOmone should really snatch up the license to put out more books. Pending that, I'd be up for some Agents of Shield novels.
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Old April 25 2014, 02:48 AM   #67
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There have been some new novels in the last several years.
Marvel has novelizations of the Civil War, Astonishing X-Men: Gifted, New Avengers: Breakout, Iron Man: Extremis, X-Men: Days of Future Past and the Death of Captain America comic book arcs. They will also be releasing their first original novel, Rocket Racoon & Groot: Stealing the Universe written by Guardians of the Galaxy comic co-writer Dan Abnet in July.

Hyperion has also published a couple of novels with Marvel super-heroines that appear to be geared at a female audience, The She-Hulk Diaries and Rogue Touch.
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Old April 25 2014, 04:47 AM   #68
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Jim Butcher wrote a Spider-Man novel? I need to find this. If Harry Dresden's anything to go by, his Spider-Man's snark-meter must have been turned up to 11.
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Old April 25 2014, 01:31 PM   #69
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Jim Butcher wrote a Spider-Man novel? I need to find this. If Harry Dresden's anything to go by, his Spider-Man's snark-meter must have been turned up to 11.
It's called The Darkest Hours, and yeah, your assessment's pretty much on the mark. Note, though, that it's a direct sequel to J. Michael Straczynski's debut arc on The Amazing Spider-Man, so it helps if you've read that comics story, though it's not essential.
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Old April 25 2014, 02:43 PM   #70
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There have been some new novels in the last several years.
Marvel has novelizations of the Civil War, Astonishing X-Men: Gifted, New Avengers: Breakout, Iron Man: Extremis, X-Men: Days of Future Past and the Death of Captain America comic book arcs. They will also be releasing their first original novel, Rocket Racoon & Groot: Stealing the Universe written by Guardians of the Galaxy comic co-writer Dan Abnet in July.

Hyperion has also published a couple of novels with Marvel super-heroines that appear to be geared at a female audience, The She-Hulk Diaries and Rogue Touch.
Thank you but I didn't mean comic ones. I meant actual novels like Pocket used to publish.
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Old April 25 2014, 04:09 PM   #71
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There have been some new novels in the last several years.
Marvel has novelizations of the Civil War, Astonishing X-Men: Gifted, New Avengers: Breakout, Iron Man: Extremis, X-Men: Days of Future Past and the Death of Captain America comic book arcs. They will also be releasing their first original novel, Rocket Racoon & Groot: Stealing the Universe written by Guardians of the Galaxy comic co-writer Dan Abnet in July.

Hyperion has also published a couple of novels with Marvel super-heroines that appear to be geared at a female audience, The She-Hulk Diaries and Rogue Touch.
Thank you but I didn't mean comic ones. I meant actual novels like Pocket used to publish.
I believe those are all actual prose novels, sometimes based on the comic-book storylines of the same name. The links take you to the Amazon listings for the prose versions.
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Old April 26 2014, 12:32 AM   #72
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Jim Butcher wrote a Spider-Man novel? I need to find this. If Harry Dresden's anything to go by, his Spider-Man's snark-meter must have been turned up to 11.
It's called The Darkest Hours, and yeah, your assessment's pretty much on the mark. Note, though, that it's a direct sequel to J. Michael Straczynski's debut arc on The Amazing Spider-Man, so it helps if you've read that comics story, though it's not essential.
I haven't read it, though I'm a little familiar with JMS' run on Spidey. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Old April 26 2014, 06:22 AM   #73
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There have been some new novels in the last several years.
Marvel has novelizations of the Civil War, Astonishing X-Men: Gifted, New Avengers: Breakout, Iron Man: Extremis, X-Men: Days of Future Past and the Death of Captain America comic book arcs. They will also be releasing their first original novel, Rocket Racoon & Groot: Stealing the Universe written by Guardians of the Galaxy comic co-writer Dan Abnet in July.

Hyperion has also published a couple of novels with Marvel super-heroines that appear to be geared at a female audience, The She-Hulk Diaries and Rogue Touch.
Thank you but I didn't mean comic ones. I meant actual novels like Pocket used to publish.
I believe those are all actual prose novels, sometimes based on the comic-book storylines of the same name, The links take you to the Amazon listings for the prose versions.
Yeah, everything I listed up to Stealing the Universe, is a prose novelization of a comic book story arc, the other three are original novels. The one I find most intriguing is AXM: Gifted, it's written by Peter David and is based on a Joss Whendon story arc. That is one hell of a combination.
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Old April 26 2014, 08:46 PM   #74
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The one I find most intriguing is AXM: Gifted, it's written by Peter David and is based on a Joss Whendon story arc. That is one hell of a combination.
It is. And when I first heard about it earlier this month, I almost snapped it up. But since they apparently didn't proceed past the first arc in prose, I'm planning on passing.
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Old April 27 2014, 06:34 PM   #75
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Yeah, at the risk of being shamelessly self-promotional, it's not uncommon to publish novelizations of story lines that originally appeared in the comics: DC has done it with The Death of Superman, Knightfall, No Man's Land, and my own novelizations of Infinite Crisis, 52, Countdown, and Final Crisis . . . .
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