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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old March 17 2014, 02:26 PM   #16
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Re: Star Trek VI: Time elapsed

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Melakon, your short answer puts you in league with the dastardly Frank Drebbin...
Thanks, I was trying to emulate his thinking with that short answer. I liked him better on the original Police Squad! television show over the movies, but they only did 6 episodes or so.
You are correct. Quinn Martin style opening (even with the QM announcer), Peter Lupus as Norberg (excellent as a comic actor) , and the "freeze frame" ending done by the actors just stopping dead in their motions.

"Cigarette?" "Yes, I know."

Play it on the holodeck...Data would have fit right in.
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Old April 22 2014, 01:51 AM   #17
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I think these guys nailed it. Approximately two months between Praxis exploding and the launch of the Enterprise to escort Kronos One. Then it's one week (plus a day or so potentially) from the capture of Kirk and McCoy to the climactic battle over Khitomer. So, 9-10 weeks.
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Old April 22 2014, 01:57 AM   #18
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It must be. After all, Spock got from Vulcan to Earth in the time between the Klingon encounter with Vejur and (a couple hours after) the Enterprise's launching, and that certainly wasn't four days.
But we don't know that Spock went all the way to Earth, as he's shown meeting the Enterprise in a shuttle, which could have launched from Vulcan. And there's no indication of how much time passed between the Klingons encountering V'Ger and Kirk's arriving at Starfleet HQ, shortly after which he tells Scotty that V'Ger is less than three days from Earth.

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Old April 22 2014, 04:04 PM   #19
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Well, the center of the galaxy is only a few hours from Nimbus III. So I'd guess the Klingon border is about 48 minutes from Earth.
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Old April 22 2014, 05:23 PM   #20
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Well, the center of the galaxy is only a few hours from Nimbus III. So I'd guess the Klingon border is about 48 minutes from Earth.
Given that the entire ordeal was brought on by the alien entity's manipulation of Sybok, I'm inclined to think that the Enterprise never really went to the center of the galaxy but instead traveled to a predetermined set of coordinates designated by the entity as a means of facilitating its escape. What Sybok and the other experienced was a merely a hallucination.

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Old April 23 2014, 01:09 AM   #21
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I've always felt that they headed toward the center of the galaxy, but never actually got close to it. The great barrier might extend around this arm of the galaxy, for instance. We were, after all, never told just how long it took to get to the great barrier. Sybok may have been under the impression that if one pierced the barrier, one was taken to the center.
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Old April 23 2014, 02:21 AM   #22
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As much as I understand and appreciate the attempt at rationalizing a silly point in the script, the dialogue is pretty clear that the Great Barrier is located at the center of the galaxy and Sha Ka Ree lies beyond the barrier. Actually, the Enterprise isn't the only attempt at traversing the barrier. Kirk indicates that "no probe has ever returned."

Maybe, like the (likely non-canon) Star Trek: Star Charts book indicates, the Great Barrier is a spherical energy field engulfing the whole galactic core and all the stars within. The diameter of the Great Barrier is approximately 15,000 light years. Sha Ka Ree is not depicted to be at the center of the galaxy. Instead, it is at the outer edges of the energy field, some 7,000 light years away from the actual center.

That could work a little better perhaps. And, perhaps the crew was in the brig for a few days that were not shown "on screen."
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Old April 23 2014, 02:43 AM   #23
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As much as I understand and appreciate the attempt at rationalizing a silly point in the script, the dialogue is pretty clear that the Great Barrier is located at the center of the galaxy and Sha Ka Ree lies beyond the barrier.
I suggested some time ago in another thread that the "center" isn't the physical center, but the spiritual center of the galaxy ("Center" with a capital "C") for many of the galaxy's cultures.

Actually, the Enterprise isn't the only attempt at traversing the barrier. Kirk indicates that "no probe has ever returned."
And this is what has led many spacefaring cultures to independently mythologize the place as God's place, the transcendent realm out of which the universe comes, back to which it goes.
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