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Old April 21 2014, 02:59 PM   #91
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Re: Things you DON'T want to see in a reboot...

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(not that it's bad, I think Trek is best when it embraces it's fantastic side)
I think this is what I miss most when watching much of Modern Trek. There was a weird and wild side to the universe during TOS and early-TNG that seemed to be eliminated as Berman and Piller consolidated their control over the franchise.
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Old April 21 2014, 03:25 PM   #92
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The Starfleet Academy idea... I don't know why that even came up, ever. When was the last successful film or TV show about university students or military cadets? I can't see any storyline for this, other than typical soap opera crap. But teenage soaps take place in high school, not university. And it would be over after 4 seasons.
I agree. I can't understand why this ever comes up.

They went to school.... and graduated...

Spock was the first Vulcan to graduate SFA...

...and Kirk beat the Kobayashi Maru test... (already covered)

Next please...
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Old April 21 2014, 03:34 PM   #93
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Spock was the first Vulcan to graduate SFA......
Doesn't it make sense that the Vulcan captain of the Intrepid would have graduated before Spock?

He had already achieve Captain's rank and position while Spock was still a lowly Lt. Commander.

And there might have been many other Vulcans preceding both of them.

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Old April 21 2014, 03:53 PM   #94
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Spock was the first Vulcan to graduate SFA...
Source?
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Old April 21 2014, 04:08 PM   #95
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The Starfleet Academy idea... I don't know why that even came up, ever. When was the last successful film or TV show about university students or military cadets? I can't see any storyline for this, other than typical soap opera crap. But teenage soaps take place in high school, not university. And it would be over after 4 seasons.
I agree. I can't understand why this ever comes up.

They went to school.... and graduated...

Spock was the first Vulcan to graduate SFA...

...and Kirk beat the Kobayashi Maru test... (already covered)

Next please...
IIRC, Bennett's idea was to use the Academy concept to recast the aging actors and restart the franchise with a defacto reboot. By the end of the Academy movie, young Kirk and Spock would be on the Enterprise beginning the five year mission, which would lead to a new series of films.
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Old April 21 2014, 06:06 PM   #96
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They went to school.... and graduated.
And who exactly would "they" be?

Hopefully not Kirk and Spock again, I doubt they went to the academy at the same time, and if you meant the entire TOS team it's certain they weren't all there at the same time.

A Star Trek: Academy cast would need to create new characters for the cadet corp. Although it might be interesting to have a twenty-something Lt Kirk as one of the instructors in a occasion appearance.

But not too often.


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Old April 21 2014, 07:34 PM   #97
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Re: Things you DON'T want to see in a reboot...

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Doesn't it make sense that the Vulcan captain of the Intrepid would have graduated before Spock?

He had already achieve Captain's rank and position while Spock was still a lowly Lt. Commander.
Not necessarily. Not everyone follows the same career path or trajectory. An officer specializing in sciences may not receive the same opportunities for promotion that an officer on the command track would--precisely because officers in the command division are being groomed for positions of greater authority and responsibility.

People trained in specific areas (science, medicine, engineering, etc) might ultimately achieve the rank of captain, but their primary responsibilities don't have to involve commanding a ship or a group of officers. Spock reached the rank of captain sometime prior to 2285, but his primary responsibility in that role was teaching a group of cadets at Starfleet Academy.

Aside from when Kirk was off the ship or otherwise not available, we never saw Spock commanding the Enterprise on his own for official missions.

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Old April 22 2014, 10:09 AM   #98
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Hopefully not Kirk and Spock again, I doubt they went to the academy at the same time, and if you meant the entire TOS team it's certain they weren't all there at the same time.
Maybe not in TOS, but in a new Smallville-inspired cadet series and continuity, they could be. Just about anyone else seen or mentioned during the era could be part of it. They could even resurrect Alan Dean Foster's old "Kirk has a Klingon exchange roommate" story from his old TAS adaptations.
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Old April 22 2014, 10:38 AM   #99
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I don't want to see Wang in a reboot.
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Old April 22 2014, 02:59 PM   #100
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I don't want to see Wang in a reboot.
I don't know if you mean Garrett Wang or penis? But either way, I agree!
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Old April 22 2014, 04:23 PM   #101
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I don't want to see Wang in a reboot.
I don't know if you mean Garrett Wang or penis? But either way, I agree!
A reboot should be all about the wang
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Old April 22 2014, 04:48 PM   #102
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A reboot should be all about the wang
As a straight male I'm really not inclined to want to see "the wang". But as a Star Trek fan, I really don't want to see the female anatomy either. I grew up watching Star Trek and like the fact that it's something I can share with my kids. I really don't want Game of Thrones with a Star Trek coat of paint.

YMMV.
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Old April 22 2014, 05:48 PM   #103
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Just about anyone else seen or mentioned during the era could be part of it.
So expanding the concept, hypothedically Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Janeway could all be classmates?

Kirk would so hit on Janeway.

We could even have Boothby as the grounds keeper who advises the cadets (and in a double role the actor would also be one of the instructors, Mister Hand).

And Johnathan Archer as the guy who vacuums the floors outside the simulator room.

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Old April 22 2014, 07:03 PM   #104
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Re: Things you DON'T want to see in a reboot...

Things you DON'T want to see in a reboot:

1. Kirk, Spock and others. Please, don't. Leave them alone. They did what they did. No reboots, no new variants of the same stories. Please.

2. Teenager's adventures / problems / love / hate / nonsense (Academy years included). Please, don't. I like teenagers, they are very good people, but their stories are quite the same: love, domination in class, search for recognition and other stuff.
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Old April 22 2014, 07:38 PM   #105
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I don't want to see Wang in a reboot.
I don't know if you mean Garrett Wang or penis? But either way, I agree!
((...snicker))
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