RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,889
Posts: 5,476,296
Members: 25,049
Currently online: 678
Newest member: RikersBeard

TrekToday headlines

Klingon Bloodwine To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25

Trek Actors In War Of The Worlds Fundraiser
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25

Star Trek: The Next Generation Gag Reel Tease
By: T'Bonz on Nov 24

Shatner In Haven
By: T'Bonz on Nov 24

Retro Review: Covenant
By: Michelle on Nov 22

Two Official Starships Collection Previews
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Saldana: Women Issues In Hollywood
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Shatner Book Kickstarter
By: T'Bonz on Nov 20

Trek Original Series Slippers
By: T'Bonz on Nov 19

Hemsworth Is Sexiest Man Alive
By: T'Bonz on Nov 19


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Gaming

Gaming Non-Star Trek Gaming

View Poll Results: Will you be getting a PS4 and/or Xbox One ?
I'll get both 10 11.11%
Staying with Playstation (PS3 to PS4) 47 52.22%
Staying with Xbox (360 to One) 12 13.33%
Changing to Playstation (360 to PS4) 21 23.33%
Changing to Xbox (PS3 to One) 0 0%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old April 21 2014, 05:23 PM   #391
Kelthaz
Rear Admiral
 
Kelthaz's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

BillJ wrote: View Post
I think both machines are pretty similar from a power standpoint. The reason I went with a PS4 was because I was tired of swapping batteries and I got frustrated with Microsoft constantly pressuring me for a second way to contact me.
The PS4 has a fairly significant advantage in power. You're not seeing it now because neither system is being taxed by launch games, but late generation multiplatform games will look and/or play better on the PS4.
__________________
"Who are you?! And how did you get in here?!"

"I'm the locksmith. And... I'm the locksmith."
Kelthaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 21 2014, 05:30 PM   #392
Relayer1
Commodore
 
Relayer1's Avatar
 
Location: The Black Country, England
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Kelthaz wrote: View Post
BillJ wrote: View Post
I think both machines are pretty similar from a power standpoint. The reason I went with a PS4 was because I was tired of swapping batteries and I got frustrated with Microsoft constantly pressuring me for a second way to contact me.
The PS4 has a fairly significant advantage in power. You're not seeing it now because neither system is being taxed by launch games, but late generation multiplatform games will look and/or play better on the PS4.
I.e. 1080.

TheGodBen wrote: View Post
But Titanfall was supposed to be their ace in the hole. Remember E3 last year? "Our DRM policies don't matter, we've got Titanfall." They were banking on the game to sell consoles, they paid tens of millions to EA to secure console exclusivity, they funded a huge marketing push behind it, and they sold bundles at a hefty discount. Most people, myself included, were expecting MS to pull off a decent victory over the PS4 for March in North America. The fact that they didn't is a worrying sign for the console.
And they released a perfectly good 360 version at pretty much the same time. My son's reaction was 'Cool, there's still no reason to buy an Xbone'...
__________________
Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...
Relayer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 21 2014, 07:27 PM   #393
Owain Taggart
Rear Admiral
 
Owain Taggart's Avatar
 
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Relayer1 wrote: View Post
And they released a perfectly good 360 version at pretty much the same time. My son's reaction was 'Cool, there's still no reason to buy an Xbone'...

That's a really good point. If they'd made it an XB1 exclusive, then maybe it would be considered more of a system seller, but being on the 360 as well, many have no reason to go out and buy a new console if they want to play it. So while the game is probably selling well, it's not selling the console, which is a problem as there's no big exclusive to hook people in. I'm not saying it's a downfall, because it likely was a conscious decision in wanting to sell the game to a large number of people, but I do think it's led to cannibalizing of sales. Microsoft will likely want something truly exclusive for the console in the coming months. And no, Kinect games don't count.
Owain Taggart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 21 2014, 10:42 PM   #394
Kelthaz
Rear Admiral
 
Kelthaz's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Microsoft needs to develop more of their own games rather than rely on paying EA hundreds of millions for "exclusive" games. They lag far behind Sony and Nintendo in both quality and quantity when it comes to first party games.
__________________
"Who are you?! And how did you get in here?!"

"I'm the locksmith. And... I'm the locksmith."
Kelthaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 21 2014, 10:46 PM   #395
JarodRussell
Vice Admiral
 
JarodRussell's Avatar
 
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Kelthaz wrote: View Post
Microsoft needs to develop more of their own games rather than rely on paying EA hundreds of millions for "exclusive" games. They lag far behind Sony and Nintendo in both quality and quantity when it comes to first party games.
Whatever Microsoft pays them, it's certainly less than what the production, marketing and distribution costs.
JarodRussell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 22 2014, 04:03 PM   #396
TheGodBen
Rear Admiral
 
TheGodBen's Avatar
 
Location: Ireland
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

137th Gebirg wrote: View Post
I, too, hope they don't wait for another year to drop it, but there needs to be a major culture shift and acceptance of reality within the highest echelons of Microsoft to make it happen.
There has been a big shake-up in MS management in the last year, and they've finally relented to those demanding the return of the Start menu in Win8, so I'm hopeful they've learned the lesson of not forcing their pet projects on consumers.

The best of both worlds option would be to release a version of the Xbox One without the Kinect cameras, but with a small, cheap microphone array so that the voice commands still work. That way they can release a cheaper SKU but also stick to their "vision" of an all-in-one entertainment device with voice controls. In truth, they haven't been pushing the gesture recognition part of the UI much, and from what I've read it's pretty crap anyway.
__________________
...so many different suns...
TheGodBen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 22 2014, 07:11 PM   #397
Owain Taggart
Rear Admiral
 
Owain Taggart's Avatar
 
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Yeah, most of those questionable decisions were made under Ballmer's reign as CEO. It's still too early to tell, but the new CEO has shown to have a different vision and strategy for the company, and a willingness to think outside the box. So, here's hoping he sticks to it.
Owain Taggart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 23 2014, 06:26 AM   #398
Lance
Commodore
 
Lance's Avatar
 
Location: The Enterprise's Restroom
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Kelthaz wrote: View Post
Microsoft needs to develop more of their own games rather than rely on paying EA hundreds of millions for "exclusive" games. They lag far behind Sony and Nintendo in both quality and quantity when it comes to first party games.
There's a fundamental problem MS has had all along. Way back in the original Xbox days, they bought up prolific and highly acclaimed third-party Nintendo developers, Rare. Their intention was obviously to have some of the very best games designers working in-house for Microsoft Studios... but then they strangled out all the creativity that made Rare a household name, and put them to work developing Kinnect Sports. I mean, FFS, talk about not recognising the full value of your assets.

What's left of Rare these days isn't worth talking about, and it's all down to poor management decisions at the top of the Microsoft chain over the years. Seriously. Those guys are true talent. They could be delivering the goods for XBoxOne, cranking out exclusive in-house games that would be true 'Killer Apps' for the console, no question...

... if only they were given the full creative autonomy that they had before the take-over.
Lance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24 2014, 01:13 PM   #399
TheGodBen
Rear Admiral
 
TheGodBen's Avatar
 
Location: Ireland
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Yeah, Giant Bomb posted a Quick Look at Rare's latest effort yesterday, Kinect Sports Rivals. The character creator thing is pretty neat, but the actual gameplay didn't appear to be fun at all. It's bogged down by over-tutorialising everything and inaccurate Kinect controls.

__________________
...so many different suns...
TheGodBen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24 2014, 01:36 PM   #400
SPCTRE
BATMANBATMANBATMAN
 
SPCTRE's Avatar
 
View SPCTRE's Twitter Profile
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

^ This makes me miss Ryan Davis so much. He always made those original Kinect Quick Looks so much fun.
__________________
“Running a big company is like running a cemetery: there are thousands of people beneath you, but no one is listening. It was a bit like that at Sony.”
— Former Sony CEO and chairman Sir Howard Stringer
SPCTRE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24 2014, 05:32 PM   #401
Kelthaz
Rear Admiral
 
Kelthaz's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Lance wrote: View Post
Kelthaz wrote: View Post
Microsoft needs to develop more of their own games rather than rely on paying EA hundreds of millions for "exclusive" games. They lag far behind Sony and Nintendo in both quality and quantity when it comes to first party games.
There's a fundamental problem MS has had all along. Way back in the original Xbox days, they bought up prolific and highly acclaimed third-party Nintendo developers, Rare. Their intention was obviously to have some of the very best games designers working in-house for Microsoft Studios... but then they strangled out all the creativity that made Rare a household name, and put them to work developing Kinnect Sports. I mean, FFS, talk about not recognising the full value of your assets.
Yeah, what happened to Rare is a travesty. They went from one of the greatest developers of all time to a factory pumping out crappy Kinect games. I don't know what Microsoft was thinking when they stripped Rare of its soul.

But I still stand by the idea that Microsoft needs stronger first party games. Microsoft can't rely on inferior third party ports to sell the Xbone. They need their own games and franchises.
__________________
"Who are you?! And how did you get in here?!"

"I'm the locksmith. And... I'm the locksmith."
Kelthaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24 2014, 07:14 PM   #402
AlphaMan
Rear Admiral
 
AlphaMan's Avatar
 
Location: Doom 2099
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

I HAVE A DISEASE!!!



AlphaMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24 2014, 07:23 PM   #403
Bob The Skutter
The Revd's Oldman
 
Bob The Skutter's Avatar
 
Location: Bob The Skutter
View Bob The Skutter's Twitter Profile
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

In my experience not one of those games is worth playing. You may find different of course.
__________________
And their call for war on poverty is a smokescreen we don't need, cos the only war worth fighting for is a war on their pure greed. : Acid Country - Paul Heaton
Bob The Skutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 25 2014, 12:00 AM   #404
AlphaMan
Rear Admiral
 
AlphaMan's Avatar
 
Location: Doom 2099
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Actually, I feel like I've "digested" these games already. Need for Speed Rivals was the best one, IMHO and I don't usually like racing games. InFAMOUS Second Son is my favorite next gen console game so far.

Looking forward to Destiny, Batman Arkham Knight and Elder Scrolls Online. Thinking about Dragon Age.
AlphaMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 25 2014, 12:31 AM   #405
Owain Taggart
Rear Admiral
 
Owain Taggart's Avatar
 
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Re: Will you be getting a PS4 or an Xbox One ?

Lance wrote: View Post
There's a fundamental problem MS has had all along. Way back in the original Xbox days, they bought up prolific and highly acclaimed third-party Nintendo developers, Rare. Their intention was obviously to have some of the very best games designers working in-house for Microsoft Studios... but then they strangled out all the creativity that made Rare a household name, and put them to work developing Kinnect Sports. I mean, FFS, talk about not recognising the full value of your assets.

Not only Rare, but remember Access Software? They made the Links series of golf games as well as the Tex Murphy games. There were a few Links releases under Microsoft and whatever is remains of them has been likely making the Kinect golf. Other than that, another studio that has largely been stamped out. MS seems to treat their properties horribly.

The ironic thing is, under Microsoft Games, there had been some great PC games as well as console games that were on the original XBox, but somewhere along the line, they seemed to get away from that and away from first-party games. Bungie was lucky to get out of there alive and get back to being independent. Bring back the Madness games! Monster Truck Madness, Midtown Madness, Motocross Madness etc.
Owain Taggart is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
microsoft, ps4, sony, xbox

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.