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Old April 7 2014, 12:28 AM   #31
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Re: TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise, by Greg Cox (November 25, 2014)

Me too.
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Old April 7 2014, 03:24 AM   #32
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Re: TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise, by Greg Cox (November 25, 2014)

I'm up for movie era TOS that actually feels like movie era TOS. Count me in as wanting to read this one.
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Old April 7 2014, 04:01 PM   #33
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Re: TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise, by Greg Cox (November 25, 2014)

I am looking forward to this. I really wish the movie era was mined more often in the novels, there is so much space for stories to be written!
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Old April 7 2014, 04:40 PM   #34
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Fascinating. Does this mean Kevin Riley will make an appearance?

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Possibly . . . .

Thanks Mr. C, this one just gets better and better!

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Old April 10 2014, 12:04 AM   #35
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Re: TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise, by Greg Cox (November 25, 2014)

Do you have any control over what the cover will be, Greg?
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Old April 10 2014, 12:20 AM   #36
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Do you have any control over what the cover will be, Greg?
Nope.That's what art departments are for.

God save us from authors who think they are art directors!
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Old April 14 2014, 12:38 AM   #37
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Re: TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise, by Greg Cox (November 25, 2014)

Someone over at another site just pointed out that Simon & Schuster have updated/changed the official blurb for the novel (replacing the old one at the link):

An all-new Star Trek novel, set in the popular and blockbuster Original Series movie era!

2288. The U.S.S Enterprise-A is on a vital peacekeeping mission in a remote solar system beyond the boundaries of the Federation, where two warring planets—Pavak and Oyolo—are attempting to end years of bitter conflict. Crucial peace talks are being conducted aboard the Enterprise, even as Starfleet weapons inspectors oversee the disarmament process. Losses and atrocities on both sides have left plenty of hard feelings behind, so Captain James T. Kirk has his work cut out for him, even as he unexpectedly runs into a disturbing figure from his past: Lenore Karidian.

Twenty years ago, the deadly daughter of Kodos the Executioner tried to kill Kirk, but she has since been declared sane and rehabilitated. Kirk wants to give her the benefit of the doubt and a second chance at life, but when a mysterious assassination threatens the already-fragile peace process, all clues point toward Lenore—and the future of two worlds hangs in the balance.
Very nice. Intrigued by the weapons-inspection mentions.

Greg, as author, are you able to suggest changes/updates to synopses by the publisher as more info is released over time, or was this something done by Pocket's marketing department on their own initiative?
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Old April 14 2014, 12:56 AM   #38
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Someone over at another site just pointed out that Simon & Schuster have updated/changed the official blurb for the novel (replacing the old one at the link):

An all-new Star Trek novel, set in the popular and blockbuster Original Series movie era!

2288. The U.S.S Enterprise-A is on a vital peacekeeping mission in a remote solar system beyond the boundaries of the Federation, where two warring planets—Pavak and Oyolo—are attempting to end years of bitter conflict. Crucial peace talks are being conducted aboard the Enterprise, even as Starfleet weapons inspectors oversee the disarmament process. Losses and atrocities on both sides have left plenty of hard feelings behind, so Captain James T. Kirk has his work cut out for him, even as he unexpectedly runs into a disturbing figure from his past: Lenore Karidian.

Twenty years ago, the deadly daughter of Kodos the Executioner tried to kill Kirk, but she has since been declared sane and rehabilitated. Kirk wants to give her the benefit of the doubt and a second chance at life, but when a mysterious assassination threatens the already-fragile peace process, all clues point toward Lenore—and the future of two worlds hangs in the balance.
Very nice. Intrigued by the weapons-inspection mentions.

Greg, as author, are you able to suggest changes/updates to synopses by the publisher as more info is released over time, or was this something done by Pocket's marketing department on their own initiative?
I confess: I wrote the new copy myself . . . and Pocket graciously agreed to go with it.

Ordinarily, authors don't write their own advertising copy, but, as you may or may not know, I'm also a professional copywriter, who has been writing the blurbs for other people's books for nearly thirty years now, so I'm not above volunteering to do the same for my own books!

(Just last week, I wrote the jacket copy for two upcoming Tor projects: a fantasy novel and a legal thriller.)
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Old April 14 2014, 03:45 AM   #39
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Just last week, I wrote the jacket copy for two upcoming Tor projects: a fantasy novel and a legal thriller.
Maybe a bit off topic, but... a straight legal thriller? Or something in some sort of SF/F context? I didn't think Tor did anything non-genre; given how I've enjoyed SF (Retrieval Artist, Elijah Bailey) and fantasy (Dragon Precinct) takes on police procedurals, someone doing the same with a legal thriller sounds like an interesting prospect.
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Old April 14 2014, 04:10 AM   #40
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Just last week, I wrote the jacket copy for two upcoming Tor projects: a fantasy novel and a legal thriller.
Maybe a bit off topic, but... a straight legal thriller? Or something in some sort of SF/F context? I didn't think Tor did anything non-genre; given how I've enjoyed SF (Retrieval Artist, Elijah Bailey) and fantasy (Dragon Precinct) takes on police procedurals, someone doing the same with a legal thriller sounds like an interesting prospect.
Okay, to be more precise, the legal thriller will probably be published under the Forge imprint, but it's the same company and people: Tom Doherty Associates. In general, the Tor label goes on the sf/fantasy stuff, while the more mainstream stuff (mysteries, spy thrillers, historical fiction, etc.) are published as Forge.

True story: We basically invented Forge back in the early nineties because Tor had become so identified with sf/fantasy that whenever we tried to publish something else--like a straight legal thriller--people would just assume it was somehow science-fictional. Newspapers would assign it to the sf reviewer, bookstores would shelve it in the sf section, etc.

So . . . Forge Books was born. But, behind the scenes, it's the same company as Tor. And I'm writing the copy for the same people.

Hope that makes sense!
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Old April 14 2014, 04:14 AM   #41
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So it's a Forged identity?
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Old April 14 2014, 04:24 AM   #42
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So it's a Forged identity?
Basically!

One of the very first Forge books, btw, was Seven Steps to Midnight by Richard Matheson, which we published as a mainstream thriller rather than horror.

I remember that there was a Tower Books in NYC that automatically shelved anything with "Tor" on the spine in the sf section, including murder mysteries, historical romances, westerns, you name it. Used to drive me nuts . . .

Hence, the need for Forge.
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Old April 14 2014, 05:41 AM   #43
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Re: TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise, by Greg Cox (November 25, 2014)

I've always wondered, when you write the back cover blurb, do you actually get to read the whole book, or just a more detailed synopsis?
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Old April 14 2014, 02:47 PM   #44
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I've always wondered, when you write the back cover blurb, do you actually get to read the whole book, or just a more detailed synopsis?
Depends. On media tie-in books, back in the day, I often just read the outlines, since I already knew the characters, universe, etc. For original novels from Tor or Nightshade or Ace or whomever, I'm usually sent a draft of the ms.--which I may or may not read in its entirety,

I'll often read the first 100 pages closely, to get the general idea and tone, then skim the rest, depending on how complicated the plot is and how quickly it takes me to figure out what the main selling point of the book is.

Thrillers tend to be the easiest, since the basic premise is usually laid out early on. "Terrorists have kidnapped the First Lady . . . and only special agent Marc Uzi can save her!"

Multi-generational family sagas, on the other hand, take forever to get a handle on. ("So who is the main character here? The mother? The daughter? The grand-daughter? I'm lost. . ..")

On rare occasions, I've been asked to whip something up out of nothing but a vague description, but that's the exception to the rule.

"Special operatives Jim Smith and Caitlin O'Rourke have faced many challenges, but nothing like the harrowing mission before them now--which will test their courage and ingenuity to the limit!"
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Old April 19 2014, 04:56 AM   #45
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Will this novel by chance reference The Final Frontier and try to logically retcon some of the implausibilities in the movie?
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