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Old March 30 2014, 04:49 PM   #106
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Re: Star Trek: Section 31: Disavowed - Dec. 2014?

Is it just me or does anybody else get a "The Prisoner" vibe from that cover? You know, the scene at the beginning where they're typing all the x's over McGoohan's file picture.
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Old March 30 2014, 06:43 PM   #107
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^I believe the cover in question is a mockup that Dave created as a promotion, and I wouldn't be surprised if The Prisoner was one of his inspirations, although the title is evidently a Mission: Impossible nod.
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Old March 30 2014, 08:33 PM   #108
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It was intended by David as a placeholder, but I have to admit that I like the design as it is.
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Old April 5 2014, 06:23 PM   #109
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Re: Star Trek: Section 31: Disavowed - Dec. 2014?

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We know that Memory Omega operated clandestinely in other universes and that at least one of their magnificent jaunt ships was lost in the primary universe.
I'd sort of guessed the former, but not the latter. When did one of those Commonwealth ships ever wind up in the RU?
It's what the Breen were after in Cold Equations, Book II: Silent Weapons.
Wait, I thought in Silent weapons the Breen were trying to acquire a mirror Tzenkethi vessel that had a jaunt drive?
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Old April 5 2014, 07:30 PM   #110
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Wait, I thought in Silent weapons the Breen were trying to acquire a mirror Tzenkethi vessel that had a jaunt drive?
No, the Enterprise crew noted similarities to Tzenkethi wormhole tech in the derelict's engine design, but it was never expressly identified as a Tzenkethi ship.
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Old April 5 2014, 09:12 PM   #111
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Re: Star Trek: Section 31: Disavowed - Dec. 2014?

^ As for the ship in question, I thought it was supposed to be...

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Old April 5 2014, 09:58 PM   #112
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Wait, I thought in Silent Weapons the Breen were trying to acquire a mirror Tzenkethi vessel that had a jaunt drive?
No, the Enterprise crew noted similarities to Tzenkethi wormhole tech in the derelict's engine design, but it was never expressly identified as a Tzenkethi ship.
Oh. Never thought of it that way.

So will Disavowed reveal anything on the progression of mirror universe history since the epilogue of Rise Like Lions in 2381?
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Old April 5 2014, 10:02 PM   #113
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Wait, I thought in Silent Weapons the Breen were trying to acquire a mirror Tzenkethi vessel that had a jaunt drive?
No, the Enterprise crew noted similarities to Tzenkethi wormhole tech in the derelict's engine design, but it was never expressly identified as a Tzenkethi ship.
Oh. Never thought of it that way.

So will Disavowed reveal anything on the progression of mirror universe history since the epilogue of Rise Like Lions in 2381?
You don't really expect him to answer that, do you? Read the book and find out.
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Old April 5 2014, 10:08 PM   #114
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As it's been brought up, I was glad to see the Cold Equations reference to Tzenkethi artificial wormhole technology. That was a reasonably big development in Plagues of Night/Raise the Dawn, and I wouldn't want it to be one of those technological breakthroughs with interesting potential consequences that then disappear and are never used or mentioned again.

On that note, I'm equally glad that the thread of Memory Omega will be continued in Disavowed. Travel to and from the Mirror Universe was made so casual in the later seasons of DS9 that incursions are surely expected, and having the significance of the jaunt ships become central to a plot is very welcome. Then again, Mack is good at this sort of thing - I was impressed that Zero Sum Game made use of a captured Breen ship first mentioned in A Time to Kill, for instance - that's a minor continuity reference across about a decade, yes?

One of the reasons Mack is among my favourite Trek authors is that he knows how to use continuity well - detailed, building on what's come before in a natural, organic fashion that sells the idea that this all takes place in one universe, but incorporated so naturally that it doesn't detract from the current story. Unspoken links that carry ideas forward, bring multi-book arcs into play that are evident to committed readers but subtle enough not to trip more casual or sporadic readers. (One of the best examples is the Bacco scene in Zero Sum Game - as I've written elsewhere, it's clearly supposed to recall a similar Zife scene in A Time To Heal, yet it works perfectly whether you've read that scene or not).

Anyway, that's my babbling way of saying "I'm looking forward to seeing the Memory Omega arc's consequences continue through Disavowed".

Although, really, someone should just give the Breen advanced propulsion out of pity, before they bankrupt themselves. Eventually there'll just be a few crazy thots in a run-down room strewn with rubbish muttering violently about slipstream and transwarp while scribbling their plans onto little bits of paper.
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Old April 6 2014, 01:17 AM   #115
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Although, really, someone should just give the Breen advanced propulsion out of pity, before they bankrupt themselves. Eventually there'll just be a few crazy thots in a run-down room strewn with rubbish muttering violently about slipstream and transwarp while scribbling their plans onto little bits of paper.
I wonder if any Star Trek work will make use of Doug Drexler's suggestion that the Enterprise-J uses coaxial warp drive. Cause somehow we've got to get to the 29th century transwarp-capable temporal transporters' associated propulsion system.
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Old August 8 2014, 10:35 PM   #116
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StarTrek.com has revealed the final cover for Disavowed. It's actually not that far off from the rough one David Mack had up on his website. I like it.
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Old August 8 2014, 10:42 PM   #117
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StarTrek.com has revealed the final cover for Disavowed. It's actually not that far off from the rough one David Mack had up on his website. I like it.
The Star Charts have been promoted to the front covers!
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Old August 8 2014, 10:45 PM   #118
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StarTrek.com has revealed the final cover for Disavowed. It's actually not that far off from the rough one David Mack had up on his website. I like it.
Really like it!
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Old August 9 2014, 03:16 AM   #119
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Yeah, I'm liking the new cover, especially how similar the final product is to the placeholder.
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Old August 9 2014, 04:39 AM   #120
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Awesome cover although I suppose it won't look as grand on an actual paperback book.

They put Bashir's birth date in day-month-year format. Yay!
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