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Old March 23 2014, 02:16 AM   #376
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That's the Dyson Sonic-Scrub -- every OR has one in the 23rd century...
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Old March 23 2014, 02:59 AM   #377
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That's the Dyson Sonic-Scrub -- every OR has one in the 23rd century...
Old news, though - see this thread from late May 2009

A few weeks before that, the dryers had been spotted in screencaps of (at that time brand-new) background images from a page on the official site. I think there might also have been a TrekToday article about it, but I could be misremembering.
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Old March 23 2014, 03:51 AM   #378
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I guess that is where we disagree--I think it looks rather nice myself.
I think it looks a million times better than what we got, but given the tastes of the other creatives involved, I'm not surprised it got shitcanned. Flattery has done some good stuff on bad or unfavorably received shows, like MISSION TO MARS and SOLARIS, but this looks hot.
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Old March 23 2014, 05:26 PM   #379
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Taking that screencap out of its original context for a moment...would those umbilicals be boarding tubes, bulk-supply conduits or a combination of the two types?
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Old March 23 2014, 09:28 PM   #380
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That looks awful.
I agree. I hope this Tim Flattery guy didn't get paid a whole lot for just basically changing the engines on a ship design he didn't even come up with himself.
Now to come to his defense, he did great work on SOLARIS
http://io9.com/5578025/the-haunting-...s-concept-art/
http://www.timflattery.com/work/solaris/

Another angle of his trek design
http://www.timflattery.com/work/star-trek/

Now maybe you would have liked it better as the 1701-A? It might have been a better fit as that.

I love different takes on the TMP era design
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...l=1#post580306

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...l=1#post585568

This is why I love the Balson so much:
http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...ser_balson.jpg

Now imagine the nacelles with the front end similar to the Raan: http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...uiser_raan.jpg

The nacelles are longer though, and rather look like the side view here:
http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...eague_reft.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...naught_dnx.jpg

I think Justicar did those.

I like how JJ made the Dreadnought -into Darkness a two nacelle beast, keeping the swan-like grace.

Similar https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...ums/1831657996

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Old March 24 2014, 10:20 AM   #381
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Another angle of his trek design
http://www.timflattery.com/work/star-trek/
I can see from these better pics that Flattery also developed the neck that features in the Church design, aside from the curved pylons and round nacelles.

Now maybe you would have liked it better as the 1701-A? It might have been a better fit as that.
No, not really. As I said, the ship just looks like the TMP Constitution with different nacelles. A ship design from 1979. I'd expect something a little newer than something from 35 years ago.
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Old March 24 2014, 11:35 AM   #382
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Another angle of his trek design
http://www.timflattery.com/work/star-trek/
I can see from these better pics that Flattery also developed the neck that features in the Church design, aside from the curved pylons and round nacelles.
And the longer tapering end of the engineering hull.

Nice find, publiusr! Looking back at Star Trek: The Art of the Film, I found some line drawings showing initial changes made to Flattery's Probert-based Enterprise, on the road to the version we saw. Click!
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Old March 24 2014, 05:06 PM   #383
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Taking that screencap out of its original context for a moment...would those umbilicals be boarding tubes, bulk-supply conduits or a combination of the two types?
I would think both.


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Old March 25 2014, 02:13 AM   #384
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Taking that screencap out of its original context for a moment...would those umbilicals be boarding tubes, bulk-supply conduits or a combination of the two types?
I know this is completely is besides the point, so I hope you'll forgive me for temporarily hijacking the thread, but just gotta say this is one of my favorite shots/angles of the new Enterprise. I wish a shot similar to this would have been the very first picture of the JJ Prise we got rather than the infamous publicity photo Paramount put out at first. This one makes it look lot more "graceful" IMHO.
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Old March 26 2014, 01:02 AM   #385
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Taking that screencap out of its original context for a moment...would those umbilicals be boarding tubes, bulk-supply conduits or a combination of the two types?
Some better angles:







Note that, in motion, the hatches on the top of the saucer slide closed.
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Old March 26 2014, 01:46 AM   #386
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Definitely bulk-supply conduits, all four of them, then.

I remember the Franz Joseph version of the deck plans allowing for storage of liquids in the saucer...
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Old March 29 2014, 09:16 AM   #387
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Those might not be supply umbilicals, rather just power hookups and mooring clamps while the enterprise is in dock, so it doesn't have continue use it's reactor while in space dock. The Enterprise may just from the looks of it, resupply exclusively through the shuttle bay. When you see Kirk, as he boards the ship, you see cargo being moved, as well as the new torpedoes, all through the bay.
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Old April 9 2014, 03:18 PM   #388
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Some more user interface goodness...

http://www.rudyvessup.com/work/star-...ss-med-bay-ui/
It would appear Kirk is still a little bit radioactive when he wakes up on Earth.

http://saffron-ember.com/star-trek-ui-vfx/
Here are some good shots from that "powerwall" video a few pages back, also graphics detailing damage to the Enterprise and Vengeance (note the "OMG" callouts), and the graphic which comes up when Sulu sends his message to John Harrison. The latter confirms that the destroyed moon seen is Praxis, and says that Qo'nos is located in the "Omega Leonis sector block", a reference to Star Trek Online.
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Old April 9 2014, 03:36 PM   #389
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Re: concept art and set photos!

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Some more user interface goodness...

http://www.rudyvessup.com/work/star-...ss-med-bay-ui/
It would appear Kirk is still a little bit radioactive when he wakes up on Earth.

http://saffron-ember.com/star-trek-ui-vfx/
Here are some good shots from that "powerwall" video a few pages back, also graphics detailing damage to the Enterprise and Vengeance (note the "OMG" callouts), and the graphic which comes up when Sulu sends his message to John Harrison. The latter confirms that the destroyed moon seen is Praxis, and says that Qo'nos is located in the "Omega Leonis sector block", a reference to Star Trek Online.
Nice find! But I believe the "OMG" callouts () actually say "DMG", which is a common abbreviation for "DAMAGE".
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Old April 9 2014, 03:45 PM   #390
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Oh yeah, that would make a lot more sense!
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