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Old March 22 2014, 05:45 AM   #61
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Re: Pixar is making The Incredibles 2 and Cars 3

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But once again, Cars is a toy franchise, it's the only reason new movies and spinoffs are made. If you don't like that then ignore the movie, not that hard to do.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said I would be doing before you got your knickers in a twist about it, chief.

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Have zero interest in Cars, Cars 2, Cars 3, Planes, Planes 2, Boats 3, Trains 4, Rockets 5, Mobility Scooters 6, Bicycles 7... Terrible from the outset and only getting worse with each sequel and spinoff.
Or is this one of those non-discussion discussion threads where we're not supposed to mention the subject matter in the OP?
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Old March 22 2014, 06:18 AM   #62
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Re: Pixar is making The Incredibles 2 and Cars 3

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As opposed to Bolt, Frozen, A Bugs Life, etc, which Disney only made for artistic intent.
It's possible, as Locutus points out, to make money (and sell toys, in this case) and make good entertainment at the same time. Bolt is actually a pretty good example of that, as I'm told is Frozen (though I haven't seen it). The Cars / Planes / et-ceteras franchise, not so much.
Hell, I loved Bolt but if you think it sold a lot of toys I have a bridge to sell you. And again, I think Cars is good entertainment. The second wasn't as good as the first but it's hardly the standard-bearer for that.

Once the toys went crazy and they built a Cars Land in CA (and plans go back and forth about bringing it to DHS in FL) there were going to be Car movies up the wazoo.
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Old March 22 2014, 06:50 AM   #63
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As opposed to Bolt, Frozen, A Bugs Life, etc, which Disney only made for artistic intent.
It's possible, as Locutus points out, to make money (and sell toys, in this case) and make good entertainment at the same time. Bolt is actually a pretty good example of that, as I'm told is Frozen (though I haven't seen it). The Cars / Planes / et-ceteras franchise, not so much.

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I haven't met a child yet that hasn't like Cars.
I haven't met a child yet that hasn't liked Toy Story or Up or The Incredibles or Wall-E or Ratatouille. The difference is I've met many people outside the toy marketing demographic who also like those movies, because they're actually good movies.

I'm not working in brand management for Pixar or anything, so as you say it's no particular skin off my nose, I just steer clear of the crap content. But if I were? I'd be advising them that their ability to hit that sweet spot -- producing profitable children's entertainment that's also not crap and appeals to adults -- is at the heart of their brand, and the open cynicism of the Cars / Planes / et-ceteras franchise is doing damage to that.
Funny because I know several children that don't like Ratatouille or The Incredibles. Wall-e and Up are forgotten but to this day the kids still have Cars backpacks and they weren't born when the first movie came out.
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Old March 22 2014, 07:17 AM   #64
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Re: Pixar is making The Incredibles 2 and Cars 3

Disney/Pixar makes 2 billion yearly through just Cars merchandise sales. That's right BILLION.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...rossed-8-99438

Nothing else they have is even in the same ballpark in terms of toy seller.

Also the Cars franchise has the full backing of John Lasseter, the man who has full film greenlighting powers at both Disney and Pixar. I only hope they have listened to the criticism of Cars 2, and give us a better sequel.
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Old March 22 2014, 11:14 PM   #65
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I only hope they have listened to the criticism of Cars 2, and give us a better sequel.
Fully agreed.
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Old March 22 2014, 11:22 PM   #66
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Re: Pixar is making The Incredibles 2 and Cars 3

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Funny because I know several children that don't like Ratatouille or The Incredibles.
I'm sure there might even be upwards of ten in total, but the point stands.
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Old March 23 2014, 01:28 AM   #67
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Disney/Pixar makes 2 billion yearly through just Cars merchandise sales. That's right BILLION.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...rossed-8-99438

Nothing else they have is even in the same ballpark in terms of toy seller.

Also the Cars franchise has the full backing of John Lasseter, the man who has full film greenlighting powers at both Disney and Pixar. I only hope they have listened to the criticism of Cars 2, and give us a better sequel.

Bingo. if people haven't read the Steve Jobs book I suggest you ready the 3-5 Pixar chapters. When Disney bought Pixar the deal was that John Lassester would become the president of both Pixar and Disney branches of animation.

And I still stick to the fact Cars 2 was a lot more fun and less boring than Cars. However it felt more like what a Cars TV movie would have been.
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Old March 23 2014, 08:40 AM   #68
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I'm worried Pixar continues to head down the road of being stuck in sequel city
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Up needs a sequel.
Ok then!
I mentioned it only for the 'Down' joke.

I thought Up was crap.
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Old March 23 2014, 09:45 AM   #69
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Re: Pixar is making The Incredibles 2 and Cars 3

This is great news about The Incredibles. I love that movie. It's the best Marvel movie ever made.

Now if only we could get a sequel to Megamind-- which was the best DC movie ever made.


(And, yes, I know that Megamind wasn't Pixar. I'm just sayin.')
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Old March 23 2014, 07:00 PM   #70
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Brad Bird said he didn't want to do another Incredibles unless there was a good enough story reason to do one, I guess he's finally come up with something.
Indeed, it looks as though he's found it. From The Hollywood Reporter:
When now-sixteen-year old Dash (Spencer Fox) is brutally killed during a family battle, Bob and Helen Parr (Craig T. Nelson and Holly Hunter) reconsider their prior willingness to let their underage children fight and risk their lives, and struggle to hold on their marriage. Meanwhile, Violet (Sarah Vowell), no longer wanting to be defined by her mutation, joins her school's Math Olympics team, where she strikes up a friendship with Lucius Best/Frozone's (Samuel L. Jackson) deaf daughter. But in the shadows, a new threat to supers worldwide looms.

... I'll be honest, I didn't foresee Brad Bird/Pixar going in that adult a direction.
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Old March 23 2014, 07:09 PM   #71
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I thought Up was crap.
Interesting. Why exactly?
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Old March 23 2014, 08:22 PM   #72
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I thought Up was crap.
Interesting. Why exactly?
Ignoring the first six minutes, I found the film dragged and meandered on. Don't recall if I even finished watching it.

It was better than Ratatouille though.
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Old March 23 2014, 08:47 PM   #73
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Gaith, I'm assuming that was a joke? the link is dead. and it sounded unlikely.
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Old March 23 2014, 08:58 PM   #74
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http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Cars-...xar-42139.html

Recently, we reported on Pixar Animation Studio’s progress when it came to bringing past classics back to theaters with 3D upgrades. The films of Brad Bird were in the spotlight, as Pixar was fashioning enhanced visions of The Incredibles and Ratatouille. That might have been the ideal time to reveal this new bit of news, but Disney decided to wait, to give it a little bot of breathing room.

Now it can be announced that sequels are underway for both the Incredibles and Cars franchises. The news was revealed at an annual stockholders’ meeting (and reported – amongst other places – on InsideTheMagic.net).

So, we’re back in sequel land with Pixar, even as the studio toils away on original fare like Inside Out and The Good Dinosaur. There is reason to get excited. /Film confirms that original Incredibles director Bird is working on the story for the next chapter of the Parr family. I honestly have no idea why it took this long to get an Incredibles sequel off the ground. This first movie ENDS with a set up for the next adventure, if that’s the direction that Bird wants to go. Bring on the Underminer!
I'm surprised that it has taken Brad Bird so long to get started on the Incredibles 2, since we are right in the middle of the superhero film craze right now.
Here's one idea: There was speculation on Beyond the Trailer that Disney/Pixar made a deal to produce Bird's 'Tomorrowland' for him doing The Incredibles 2.

Brad Bird is a director/writer I'm fascinated with. I actually watched Mission:Impossible-Protocol because he helmed it.

I'm interested in seeing where he takes the Parr family in part 2. And, of course, I'm looking forward to more Frozone/Lucius Best as well.
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Old March 23 2014, 09:19 PM   #75
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There is a show on Disney Jr called Chuggington, if you want to check out what Trains would be like.

Add to the fact, that it's pretty much Thomas the Tank Engine, oddly enough.


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