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Old March 23 2014, 11:00 AM   #1
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DVD vs Bluray.

I was wondering if the people who own both dvds and blurays of Enterprise could tell me if the video quality really is that much better for the Blurays.

Is it a true remastering, like they did for TNG? Or is more of a digital upscaling, like they do with so many older series and movies released on BR?

I'm asking, since I can buy the entire show as a set for about 45 euros on dvd, and since Enterprise isn't my favorite show, it seems like a great deal. I asume the show still looks on dvd, played on a blurayplayer with the upscaling turned off.
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Old March 23 2014, 12:01 PM   #2
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

I haven't seen it, but it's my understanding ENT was filmed entirely in HD. The only upscaling is the VFX, which was rendered at 720p and not full HD.
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Old March 23 2014, 12:06 PM   #3
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

I own the entire series on DVD and the first two seasons on BD, and I must say that the BDs are not worth their money. The live action footage is native HD, but the FX are upscaled. So far, so good ... but the major turn-off for me are the cut-offs right before the imaginary commercial breaks. On the DVDs you have a smooth fade-out or cross-fading into the next scene, while on the BDs the score is being brutally cut off in many places.
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Old March 23 2014, 12:39 PM   #4
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

Hm.... sofar, I'm leaning towards the dvds then.
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Old March 23 2014, 12:40 PM   #5
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

On the other hand, the Blu-rays have much better color reproduction.
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Old March 23 2014, 01:14 PM   #6
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On the other hand, the Blu-rays have much better color reproduction.
Hmm ... it all seems to be a bit on the pink side on the BDs.
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Old March 23 2014, 02:35 PM   #7
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

The bottom line is the ENT BD's are better than the DVD's in both sound and picture quality, and I would recommend purchasing them as your best available option if you don't own the series and are considering a home video purchase.

However, big caveat, the increase in quality over the DVD's is often fairly minimal, and indeed, in certain scenes - marginal.

TOS on Blu is significantly superior to all antecedent home video releases, and TNG literally shits on the DVD's from a great height with a revelatory, night and day, enhancement in quality.

If you've been wowed by TOS, or blown away by TNG, you are definitely not going to feel the same way about ENT on Blu-ray - and are in for disappointment.

Upgrading to Blu from DVD is for probably for the more hardcore Trek/ENT fans only, or perhaps those who may notice moderate improvements on larger display devices and home cinema sound systems (that's me)!

If you're the former, I would advise tempering your expectations, for as mentioned above, improvements are sometimes subtle.
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Old March 23 2014, 03:04 PM   #8
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

Well, take for example the BR of Nemesis compared to the dvd. I can tell that it's nicer then the dvd. My BR of it was part of the Stardate collection set, so that's why I have it. However, I would not have upgraded to BR from dvd (for that movie specifically) if I was buying the BR seperatly. If the same quality upgrade can be said for the dvds/BR's of Enterprise, I can settle for the dvds in this case.
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Old March 23 2014, 03:17 PM   #9
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

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On the other hand, the Blu-rays have much better color reproduction.
Hmm ... it all seems to be a bit on the pink side on the BDs.
So, they really are "pinkskins", now?

As to the question. Go with DVD. The picture doesn't have to be perfect. I will never upgrade to Blue Ray.
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Old March 23 2014, 03:17 PM   #10
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

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Well, take for example the BR of Nemesis compared to the dvd. I can tell that it's nicer then the dvd. My BR of it was part of the Stardate collection set, so that's why I have it. However, I would not have upgraded to BR from dvd (for that movie specifically) if I was buying the BR seperatly. If the same quality upgrade can be said for the dvds/BR's of Enterprise, I can settle for the dvds in this case.
Based on that post, Mage, I would have to say your choice is DVD. The comparative increase in quality for ENT on Blu-ray is much smaller than the Nemesis movie release.

However, if you don't own the series, it's worth hunting around for "deals" as I suspect there isn't a huge discrepancy in pricing between the two, and for the sake of a few pounds/dollars whatever, I would still advise going for the best product available.
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Old March 23 2014, 03:29 PM   #11
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Well, take for example the BR of Nemesis compared to the dvd. I can tell that it's nicer then the dvd. My BR of it was part of the Stardate collection set, so that's why I have it. However, I would not have upgraded to BR from dvd (for that movie specifically) if I was buying the BR seperatly. If the same quality upgrade can be said for the dvds/BR's of Enterprise, I can settle for the dvds in this case.
Based on that post, Mage, I would have to say your choice is DVD. The comparative increase in quality for ENT on Blu-ray is much smaller than the Nemesis movie release.

However, if you don't own the series, it's worth hunting around for "deals" as I suspect there isn't a huge discrepancy in pricing between the two, and for the sake of a few pounds/dollars whatever, I would still advise going for the best product available.
See, that's the thing. The Blurays are about 40 euros a season. I can get the whole series in one box for 45 euros.
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Old March 23 2014, 03:32 PM   #12
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

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Well, take for example the BR of Nemesis compared to the dvd. I can tell that it's nicer then the dvd. My BR of it was part of the Stardate collection set, so that's why I have it. However, I would not have upgraded to BR from dvd (for that movie specifically) if I was buying the BR seperatly. If the same quality upgrade can be said for the dvds/BR's of Enterprise, I can settle for the dvds in this case.
Based on that post, Mage, I would have to say your choice is DVD. The comparative increase in quality for ENT on Blu-ray is much smaller than the Nemesis movie release.

However, if you don't own the series, it's worth hunting around for "deals" as I suspect there isn't a huge discrepancy in pricing between the two, and for the sake of a few pounds/dollars whatever, I would still advise going for the best product available.
See, that's the thing. The Blurays are about 40 euros a season. I can get the whole series in one box for 45 euros.
Oh, OK, there is a huge discrepancy in pricing then!!!
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Old March 23 2014, 04:09 PM   #13
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

Blu-ray is always going to be better than DVD. Enterprise was filmed in High Definition obviously and if you get the DVDs, they're not going to be in HD. I guess it's up to your visual standards whether or not the difference is worth it.
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Re: DVD vs Bluray.

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So, they really are "pinkskins", now?
Indeed!
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Old March 23 2014, 04:27 PM   #15
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Blu-ray is always going to be better than DVD. Enterprise was filmed in High Definition obviously and if you get the DVDs, they're not going to be in HD. I guess it's up to your visual standards whether or not the difference is worth it.
Sorry, but I don't agree. Some older series and movies are simply upscaled to appear HD, which can sometimes result in pretty lousy quality. My br-player is set to play everything in Native settings, meaning a dvd is not upscaled. I've seen the effect of upscaling, and sometimes it's just horrible.
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