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Old March 20 2014, 10:52 PM   #1
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Kira giving birth

Season 5 Episode 12

Kira gives birth to baby O'Brian. I get that Bajorian customs are for the women to be totally relaxed to help with the birthing process, but right as shes giving birth, that kid just slid right out of there! She was even smiling! And she didnt have any drugs? And did you see the size of that kid???

So, without drugs, just being totally relaxed, and she just let that kid come out without any fuss it looked like.
Now Im no Doctor but I would think it would have caused a little more discomfort then it showed.
Ladies, amirite?

I know that for filming and time restraints Im sure it couldnt have been totally accurate, but still, you think it would have been a bit more then how they portrayed it.

Or, if that really is how Bajorian women give birth... my hats off to them. Good work!
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Old March 20 2014, 11:02 PM   #2
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I saw my son being born. I saw my wife's face full of pain, but ask her, she'll say it was a breeze. I accept her version of events.
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Old March 20 2014, 11:09 PM   #3
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My guess is that the experience varies for Bajoran women the same as Human women.
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Old March 20 2014, 11:32 PM   #4
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Bajorans are really big into spirituality, so they must enter some state of inner peace that lets them deal with their current situation. A natural high, perhaps.
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Old March 20 2014, 11:45 PM   #5
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Good points. But they never mention anything like that except that Bajorian women just sneeze a lot when pregnant. unless I missed something.
I guess I just figured if they were going to make something like giving birth so easy they would have mentioned directly "Bajorian women enter a state of tranquility and the actual birthing process is much eaiser then for human women." Or something along those lines.
Just me I guess.
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Old March 20 2014, 11:46 PM   #6
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Bajorian women have vaginas like subway tunnels.

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Old March 21 2014, 09:43 AM   #7
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Bajorian women have vaginas like subway tunnels.



Seriously though, you have to love alien biology for the weird and wonderful things it throws at us: Bajoran women feel no pain giving birth, Ocampa women have a birthing sack on their backs, Joined Trill women can carry a child to term even with a full Symbiont pouch, during the ten months of pregnancy Betazoid women can sense their child's emotions.
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Old March 21 2014, 11:13 AM   #8
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The reason human women feel pain giving birth is, that their birth canal didn't keep up with the rest of evolution.
It is in effect too small for human babies getting out of there.

Bajoran anatomy is likely different with a better.... stretch capability, like a snake's jaw or Phlox' smiley face?
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Old March 21 2014, 01:46 PM   #9
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Levi wrote: View Post
I get that Bajorian customs are for the women to be totally relaxed to help with the birthing process
It's not a custom, it's actually part of the biological process for Bajorans. The endorphins start pumping, and the woman has to relax to a certain point. When they get there, the baby just slides on out.
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Old March 21 2014, 02:06 PM   #10
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Bajorian women have vaginas like subway tunnels.

As do quite a lot of Earth women.
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Old March 21 2014, 04:04 PM   #11
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2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
T'Girl wrote: View Post
Bajorian women have vaginas like subway tunnels.

As do quite a lot of Earth women.
Yet another reason why I stay away from them
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Old March 21 2014, 05:28 PM   #12
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Re: Kira giving birth

Tosk wrote: View Post
Levi wrote: View Post
I get that Bajorian customs are for the women to be totally relaxed to help with the birthing process
It's not a custom, it's actually part of the biological process for Bajorans. The endorphins start pumping, and the woman has to relax to a certain point. When they get there, the baby just slides on out.
Exactly. It's not that they feel no pain - it's that the body creates enough endorphins to counteract the pain. The problem Kira faced in those scenes was that there were so many endorphins in her system that it was reaching dangerous levels and she had to back off and let the endorphins reduce.

Frankly, it sounds like a better system than ours.

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Old March 21 2014, 05:50 PM   #13
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lvsxy808 wrote: View Post
Tosk wrote: View Post
Levi wrote: View Post
I get that Bajorian customs are for the women to be totally relaxed to help with the birthing process
It's not a custom, it's actually part of the biological process for Bajorans. The endorphins start pumping, and the woman has to relax to a certain point. When they get there, the baby just slides on out.
Exactly. It's not that they feel no pain - it's that the body creates enough endorphins to counteract the pain. The problem Kira faced in those scenes was that there were so many endorphins in her system that it was reaching dangerous levels and she had to back off and let the endorphins reduce.

Frankly, it sounds like a better system than ours.

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Well, there are endorphines and various hormones involved in childbirth, which dull the pain and make women less conscious of the pain and less aware of various physical sensations. Moreover, they may alter the memory of childbirth so that it may seem less traumatic after the fact. People in the home birth movement believe that these might be enough the counter the pain in most cases, making medicinal pain relief necessary for only a few.
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Old March 21 2014, 07:24 PM   #14
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Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
T'Girl wrote: View Post
Bajorian women have vaginas like subway tunnels.
As do quite a lot of Earth women.
Yet another reason why I stay away from them
There a fairly easy exercise to fix that.
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Old March 25 2014, 08:44 PM   #15
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I've given birth twice with no drugs. Now, granted, I am not Bajoran, but I didn't scream and yell. It hurt like a son on a bitch, but being calm and being in the right frame of mind helped tremendously. And when it was over I felt great.
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