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Old March 17 2014, 12:52 AM   #721
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Zahra from the second Operation: Annihilate issue looks like a clear mistake (in the first panel with her) - the artist seems to have forgotten that they were supposed to be drawing Zahra and used Rand instead. A few panels later, there is a picture of Zahra from behind and she clearly has dark hair and a darker skin tone.

I really can't explain the post-STID appearance. Vitiligo?
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Old March 17 2014, 01:03 AM   #722
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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You have a physicist at the helm, a navigator as chief engineer, and a computer scientist as first officer, but you draw the line at a security guard doing admin?
I'm just saying that it would be nice to see a yeoman portrayed as what a yeoman actually is, rather than making it a meaningless title for a character who's doing something entirely different.

Besides, none of your examples is equivalent to this. Sulu changed jobs from physicist to helmsman. Chekov changed jobs from navigator to engineer. And Spock is consistently addressed as both first officer and science officer. If you're not going to portray a character as an administrative aide at all, if you're just going to present her as another security guard, then just bloomin' call her a security guard, not a yeoman.
Then perhaps we're talking at cross purposes. I was suggesting that the yeoman be a security-trained crewman who changed jobs to be a yeoman.

The wider point I was trying to make was that astronomy to engineering (or security in the prime universe) is actually a bigger leap in terms of training because they are quite different disciplines. Being a yeoman would require a more limited skill set than being a starship engineer, and learning about administration on a starship is something that would be part of basic training. We also know that even in TOS, all the crew were trained astronauts, often featured performing tasks in multiple disciplines.

So, the yeomen would have to be trained in something else as well as admin - it makes sense to pick something that can contribute to the story in simple ways. Pick communications or helm and they are almost never going to contribute to the story e.g. Rand and Uhura's brief stints at helm and navigation in TOS. Pick engineering and it's likely they can contribute more often in a meaningful way. Pick security and they can contribute whenever they're joined to a landing party.

I do agree that I want the yeoman to be seen doing the job they're supposed to be doing but I would not want that to be all they did any more than I want Uhura just to answer the phone or Sulu just to fly the ship. I would like Rand to be developed into a modernised version of the character she was intended to be but that will only happen gradually if they feature her doing her job regularly.

As far as ethnicity goes, I'm not a fan of a stark one in, one out approach, where you replace one similar character for another (like Babylon 5 did from pilot to season one) but I am also not in favour of replacing characters of ethnic minorities with Caucasian characters unless the reverse is also happening elsewhere to keep the overall 'cast' balanced.
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Old March 17 2014, 02:55 AM   #723
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

I don't want to interrupt the nonstop "Zahra" thread, but I wanted to say that I thought #31 was a step up from the last 2-parter. OK, so "I, Enterprise" doesn't have anything much like a plot yet, but the "origin of 0317" (that was his name, right? I could go check, but I'm too lazy...) was involving. I give it as thumb up.
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Old March 17 2014, 09:12 AM   #724
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

I think 2-parter origin stories work well because they have a focus. The previous story would have been fine if it had been followed up by an actual 3 or 4 part story. It will be interesting to see where they go with 0718 longer term. I hope it heralds the introduction of a few more alien crewmen over time as well.
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Old March 17 2014, 05:19 PM   #725
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

I'm curious, if he's unique as the comic says, why is he named Science Officer 0718? When I saw the name in the movie credits (so much for GATT2000) I must admit it made me think AU Starfleet is operating some kind of Universal Soldier program.
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Old March 17 2014, 06:29 PM   #726
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

'He' is the 718th prototype in a line dating back to Dr Soong's work first imagined in prison at the conclusion of Enterprise's The Augments?
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Old March 17 2014, 08:49 PM   #727
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He might just be the 718th crewman.
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Old March 18 2014, 03:44 AM   #728
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Maybe he served on USS Biddeford and named himself after its registry number?
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Old March 19 2014, 06:33 PM   #729
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Have they actually begun the five-year mission yet in the series?
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Old March 21 2014, 08:52 AM   #730
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Have they actually begun the five-year mission yet in the series?
Yes, but this two-parter is (mostly?) a flashback to Science Officer 0718's origins.
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Old March 22 2014, 04:04 AM   #731
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Why the one year jump ahead to 2261?

Why have the comics suddenly jumped ahead by a year, to 2261, when we only got two story lines in 2260 (After Darkness and the Gorn colony story)... The Khitomer Conflict starts at Stardate 2261.147 (If the 147 represents days into the year from Jan 1, that would be around May 27 ... The Gorn colony mission of the previous issue was on Stardate 2260.115 (Which would be April 25, 2260, since there are 31 days in January, 28 in Feb, 31 in March, then add 25 days to make the 115) - why did the story jump ahead almost a year? Was there a reason that anyone can see, plot-wise?
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Old March 22 2014, 04:07 AM   #732
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Didn't the comics initially ignore the one year jump at the end of ID (which was added in post production)? Perhaps they're just compensating for that at last.
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Old March 22 2014, 04:18 AM   #733
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

But STID ended in 2260, after most of the film occurring in 2259.

As I recall, the comics haven't been in consistent chronological order anyway. They've jumped around a fair bit.
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Old March 22 2014, 05:16 AM   #734
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But STID ended in 2260, after most of the film occurring in 2259.

As I recall, the comics haven't been in consistent chronological order anyway. They've jumped around a fair bit.
Plus it's not like the star date system generation confusion on when things take place is a new thing.
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Old March 22 2014, 05:55 AM   #735
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I rarely bother to dwell on Stardates or distances between spacial landmarks. It's not why I enjoy Star Trek.
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