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Old March 15 2014, 05:42 AM   #1
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Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

As most of you already know, Denise Crosby (a.k.a. the actress that played Lt. Tasha Yar on TNG) created the character of Sela and convinced TPTB to incorporate Sela in TNG episodes. It seems to me that Denise Crosby could have also convinced TPTB to have Sela appear on DS9 as well, especially during the Dominion War episodes. Has anyone ever heard anything about this? Of course, you could say that Sela lost her standing in the Empire as a result of the snafu seen in Unification II. Perhaps she was sent to jail (or executed) as a result of her failures in that episode.
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Old March 15 2014, 05:52 AM   #2
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As most of you already know, Denise Crosby (a.k.a. the actress that played Lt. Tasha Yar on TNG) created the character of Sela and convinced TPTB to incorporate Sela in TNG episodes. It seems to me that Denise Crosby could have also convinced TPTB to have Sela appear on DS9 as well, especially during the Dominion War episodes. Has anyone ever heard anything about this? Of course, you could say that Sela lost her standing in the Empire as a result of the snafu seen in Unification II. Perhaps she was sent to jail (or executed) as a result of her failures in that episode.
I remember hearing rumors that she advocated for some sort of role during the Dominion War. She also tried to get a part in Nemesis. I don't know much more than that, though.
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Old March 15 2014, 05:56 AM   #3
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

I feel sorry for her. She made a wrong choice that's she's regretted ever since.

I liked her as Tasha Yar. I completely dislike her as Sela. She just cannot play that character at all! Zero credibility.
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Old March 15 2014, 06:11 AM   #4
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

There's an old saying, "There are no small parts, only small actors."
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Old March 15 2014, 10:26 AM   #5
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

She got her wish in Star Trek Online, where she plays a major role as Sela in the Romulan story arc and also got another take on Yesterday's Enterprise' Tasha Yar at least with her voice.
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Old March 15 2014, 12:08 PM   #6
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

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... She also tried to get a part in Nemesis. I don't know much more than that, though.
I remember when NEM was still in production, the page for it at IMDB.com listed everyone who was alive and had worn pointy ears for the franchise as bein' in the movie.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that she would call someone whenever something about Romulans came up, but I don't think she could have kept up with the cast of DS9. I do wish she had shown up in NEM, though, since it was the last TNG movie. And it would have supported my own theory that the Romulans were workin' off of the alternate reality intelligence provided by Tasha Yar after she was taken prisoner thanks to the events of TNG 'Yesterday's Enterprise'. Why else would they have targeted the captain of deep space exploration specifically if they didn't think he would become the captain of the most powerful warship in Starfleet?
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Old March 15 2014, 05:11 PM   #7
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

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I feel sorry for her. She made a wrong choice that's she's regretted ever since.

I liked her as Tasha Yar. I completely dislike her as Sela. She just cannot play that character at all! Zero credibility.
Agreed all around...

...my memory was she did a "McLean Stevenson" and went off believing she was gonna make movies...

...at least she made a little lemonade...
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Old March 15 2014, 07:41 PM   #8
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I wouldn't have minded some Sela appearances in DS9 but the story never really had an opportunity to bring in her character. All the Romulans in DS9 either called for a character who could be sympathetic, someone who they could credibly invite to a Federation base, or somebody who could credibly collaborate with the Federation.

The one opportunity they might have had was the GQ prison camp with Bashir, Worf and Garak.

Sela's hard to bring in without her being a villain and in DS9 the rommies weren't the villains.
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Old March 15 2014, 07:51 PM   #9
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

They could have used her as the "It's a FAAAAKE!" guy whose ship blows up.
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Old March 15 2014, 09:12 PM   #10
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I never liked Sela. She was a smarmy bitch who seemed to take pleasure in the fact that she basically caused her own mother's death. I'm glad we never saw her again.
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Old March 15 2014, 10:38 PM   #11
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

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I feel sorry for her. She made a wrong choice that's she's regretted ever since.

I liked her as Tasha Yar. I completely dislike her as Sela. She just cannot play that character at all! Zero credibility.
She sucked in both parts. Sela was a moronic idea of a character, played poorly.
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Old March 16 2014, 12:51 PM   #12
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

I didn't hate her, but I can't say I liked her either. Yar was so artificial and unconvincing. Sela could be an interesting character, but Crosby's thin and delicate voice combined with not such a good acting just failed to deliver a possibly dreadful and dangerous Romulan. She was flat and unconvincing too.

Replacing Senator Vreenak - as someone suggested - would be a great loss for the episode. McHattie was awesome and Vreenak is one of my favourite Rommies.
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Old March 16 2014, 09:39 PM   #13
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As much as I am a Tasha Yar fan, I hated Sela. Not someone I loved to hate, but someone I hated due to being annoying.
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Old March 16 2014, 10:11 PM   #14
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

I'll guess that the only reason Crosby came up with the Sela idea was because she didn't want to consider coming back as a Yar 25 years older wearing a ton of age makeup.
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Old March 17 2014, 12:46 AM   #15
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Re: Did Denise Crosby Lobby for Sela to Appear on DS9?

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As most of you already know, Denise Crosby (a.k.a. the actress that played Lt. Tasha Yar on TNG) created the character of Sela and convinced TPTB to incorporate Sela in TNG episodes. It seems to me that Denise Crosby could have also convinced TPTB to have Sela appear on DS9 as well, especially during the Dominion War episodes. Has anyone ever heard anything about this? Of course, you could say that Sela lost her standing in the Empire as a result of the snafu seen in Unification II. Perhaps she was sent to jail (or executed) as a result of her failures in that episode.
I remember hearing rumors that she advocated for some sort of role during the Dominion War. She also tried to get a part in Nemesis. I don't know much more than that, though.
Wow, I never knew that she tried to get Sela a part in Nemesis. There was a way for her to be in the movie and to satisfy all of those that don't like Sela... they could have put her in the Senate room to be assassinated with all of the Senators! I'm not saying they had to make her a Senator, but she could have been giving a mlitary report to them or in a role a post-Unification demoted guard!
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