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Old March 14 2014, 02:42 PM   #16
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I love the feel of the third season, actually. It's "spookier." The music has a lot to do with it also.
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Old March 14 2014, 02:46 PM   #17
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I love the feel of the third season, actually. It's "spookier." The music has a lot to do with it also.
There is a different feel that I wouldn't want to lose. It isn't really that I'd want the poorer efforts of third season actually made in earlier seasons and replace something else there. It's that I'd rather the poorer efforts were given the same attention stories in the earlier seasons were given.
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Old March 15 2014, 06:14 AM   #18
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SPOCK'S BRAIN would have been an intentional comedy, so it probably would have been better. I actually enjoy SPECTRE OF THE GUN as-is, so I don't know if Coon's original intended approach would have been better or not.
Spock's Brain was never written as a comedy, I'm afraid. The original treatment was a little different, though.
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Old March 15 2014, 03:45 PM   #19
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I disagree. Whom Gods destroy was a far better episode than Conscious of the King. There are some real good ones in season 3 and Wink of an eye is one of them. Overall season 3 is the weakest but only by a small difference over season 2.

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When I look at these episodes I can't think of how they could gave been made distinctly better. For me they work fine as is.

“Elaan Of Troyius” (Better costuming please for the Elassians, particularly the men.)
“The Enterprise Incident” (dressing up the Romulan ship interiors more would have been appreciated.)
“Is There In Truth No Beauty?”
“The Tholian Web”

When I consider these I don't see them that far off, but a mild rewrite wouldn't have hurt. In these cases it's more a matter of having a little more money to dress up the episodes a bit more.

“Spectre Of The Gun”
“The Empath” (A bit more money please.)
“Day Of The Dove” (I'm not sure how this could have been a bit better, but it could have been.)
“Plato’s Stepchildren” (I really don't have much problem with this as is, but a little polish wouldn't hurt.)
“That Which Survives” (Spock seems just a bit too stiff and anal, for lack of a better word. And Scotty comes across at times as a little too excitable. A bit more money to dress this episode up more would have been appreciated.)
“The Cloud Minders” (I quite like this, but it could use a bit more punch, more edge and a polish in some spots)
“The Way To Eden” (In some respects this harkens back to "This Side Of Paradise." It could have used that episode's nuance as well as toning down the Space Hippy depiction)
“Requiem For Methuselah” (The only serious beef is Kirk falling for Rayna so hard and so fast. Maybe if we had some inkling some added manipulation of Kirk was in play)

These are just okay, but definitely need some rethinking.

“The Paradise Syndrome” (My biggest criticisms are in regard to some of the thinking behind the Enterprise having to intercept the asteroid, how easily the ship is crippled and Spock's methods in trying to deflect it. SOme of the scenes strike me as a bit too cheesy.)
“For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky” (Things happen just too quickly to be believable.)
“Let That Be Your Last Battlefield” (All this story really lacks is nuance.)
“The Lights Of Zetar” (Scotty has already acted weird with a woman before in "Who Mourns For Adonais?," but Mira Romaine is so uninspired compared to Carolyn Palamas.)
“The Savage Curtain” (The Excalbians come off as yet another all powerful race with abilities beyond technology. There are some interesting one-off characters introduced and I'd have liked to have learned a bit more about them)
“All Our Yesterdays” (Spock reverting to his ancestors' behaviour just doesn't wash for me)

In each of these is a viable story idea screaming to get out.

“Spock’s Brain” (A solid science fiction story idea handled in a regrettably clumsy manner. It's really a matter of botched details and overall lack in execution.)
“The Mark Of Gideon” (Ludicrous concepts and expecting too much suspension of disbelief. I don't know if this could even be salvaged.)
“Turnabout Intruder” (An episode like "Return To Tomorrow" would be a decent reference point to turn this into something more respectable)
“And The Children Shall Lead” (Potential valid horror story ruined by embarrassing overacting, poor villain concept and performance and kids.)
“Wink Of An Eye” (Atrocious science even for sci-fi. The characterizations in this are also wanting.)
“Whom Gods Destroy” (Everything about this screams "cheap" in production and in thinking. It certainly doesn't have any of the chilling sensibility of "Dagger Of The Mind.")
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Old March 15 2014, 06:21 PM   #20
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I love the feel of the third season, actually. It's "spookier." The music has a lot to do with it also.
The third season had some excellent music, most notably George Duning's lush, melodic scores for "The Empath," "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" and "For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky." Unfortunately the music frequently outshone the scripts.
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