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Old March 7 2014, 03:28 PM   #1
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Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

Have any novels ever been written about what happened to the Gem'Hadar fleet that was disappeared by the Prophets?

I'm not one to write fanfic, but if I were I think this would be an interesting idea: The Prophets did the same thing to them they did to Zek, they de-evolved them to a point before they were genetically manipulated, only they sent them to a point millions of years in the future.

So they arrive on the other side of the wormhole and see no trace of either the Federation or the Dominion, and only mind signs of any civilization whatsoever. When they run out of white, they realize they feel fine, except instead of withdrawal they feel hunger pangs. They set out to find the Founders in the logic that they are Gods and couldn't possibly be extinct, then they gradually start to assert their free will and there's a conflict between those who want to start their own colony and those who want to be 'Fixed' by the Founders.

Has any novel ever been written on this subject?
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Old March 7 2014, 03:43 PM   #2
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

I always just assumed they were dispersed to atoms.
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Old March 7 2014, 03:47 PM   #3
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

They were send to Detroit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo


A horror which is quite undestandable, because in the 24th century Old Detroit looks like this:

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Old March 7 2014, 05:28 PM   #4
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Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
I always just assumed they were dispersed to atoms.
That's not how the Prophets function though, given their behavior for the rest of the series. We've never seen any indication the Prophets are killers.
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Old March 7 2014, 05:58 PM   #5
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

Ensign_Redshirt wrote: View Post
They were send to Detroit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo


A horror which is quite undestandable, because in the 24th century Old Detroit looks like this:

I was going to do a "loft left sock wormhole" joke, but I can't top Old Chicago. However..."Gem'Hadar": a group of genetically engineered mute female soldiers who conquer worlds for the Dominion by empathically removing their pain. True sin-eaters, as it were.
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Old March 7 2014, 11:28 PM   #6
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JirinPanthosa wrote: View Post
That's not how the Prophets function though, given their behavior for the rest of the series. We've never seen any indication the Prophets are killers.
SISKO: I was ready to die with her.
BOLIAN-PROPHET: Die? What is this?

AKOREM: Then I've been wrong about everything. You should've let me die.
KIRA-PROPHET: We still can.
PORTA-PROPHET: We can return him to the moment we found him.
ODO-PROPHET: Allow him to die.

For a species such as the Prophets (a non-corporeal non-linear race of beings) death means little, if anything, to them. I'm not classing them as "killers" but they have shown willingness to take life as it suited them.
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Old March 7 2014, 11:35 PM   #7
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I'm not classing them as "killers" but they have shown willingness to take life as it suited them.
Considering they appear, from those quotes, to have no real concept of death, does killing even apply? For that matter, aren't they just offering to return Akorem back to the point at which they found him?
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Old March 8 2014, 12:06 AM   #8
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

They just disappeared into thin air.
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Old March 8 2014, 03:56 AM   #9
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

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They were send to Detroit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo


A horror which is quite undestandable, because in the 24th century Old Detroit looks like this:

I was going to do a "loft left sock wormhole" joke, but I can't top Old Chicago. However..."Gem'Hadar": a group of genetically engineered mute female soldiers who conquer worlds for the Dominion by empathically removing their pain. True sin-eaters, as it were.
It's OK, I'm failing to stop myself saying "it looks a lot like 21st century current Detroit".
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Old March 8 2014, 04:10 AM   #10
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

They did an interesting featured episode in Star Trek Online where "the 2400" the lost fleet shows up 30 years later and then take over the station again.

I found it kind of interesting, even if the why's and how's weren't really explored much.
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Old March 8 2014, 06:21 AM   #11
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

Ensign_Redshirt wrote: View Post
They were send to Detroit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo


A horror which is quite undestandable, because in the 24th century Old Detroit looks like this:

Beedee beedee beedee what's up Buck?
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Old March 8 2014, 06:27 AM   #12
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

In an ironic twist of fate, the Prophets sent the Jem'Hadar into the Star Wars universe, where they became members of Jabba's sail barge crew.
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Old March 8 2014, 07:20 AM   #13
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Re: Where did the Gem'Hadar in the wormhole go?

If I remember it correctly some of the Jem'Hadar appeared inthe novel Unity. The Prophets sent a small number into some pocket reality or something and they threw the queen Conspiracy bug alien that was threatening Bajor into that dimension as well (or did Sisko do it?). Despite the time differences both appear in the reality at the same time. The fate of these Jem'Hadar isn't stated or what happened to the thousands of others.
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Old March 8 2014, 08:14 AM   #14
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In an ironic twist of fate, the Prophets sent the Jem'Hadar into the Star Wars universe, where they became members of Jabba's sail barge crew.
That works. Jabba trades in exotic substances. When they started jonesing for some white, he could set them up.
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Old March 8 2014, 11:46 AM   #15
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They were send to Detroit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo


A horror which is quite undestandable, because in the 24th century Old Detroit looks like this:

So does that mean New Detroit is a renamed Delta City then?
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