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Old February 27 2014, 03:42 AM   #286
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Re: Supernatural Season 9 (Spoilers)

Interesting idea--all the souls trapped because Heaven's doors are locked. I wonder how that will play out later?
Wonder how God can just sit around and do nothing to fix this. How can you have any faith in him if you do everything right your whole life and be a great person and you die and then cant get into heaven and just stuck. After awhile any ghost will lose it and go nuts.

Makes you wonder if Hell was cut off too if Sam would of finished his trial. Then all the dead would of been roaming the planet. Now that would of been interesting. Good Ghost vs Bad Ghost.
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Old February 27 2014, 03:51 AM   #287
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Why in the world aren't the fundies up in arms about this series? It paints God and angels in an extremely negative light. How come Buffy the Vampire Slayer got protested and all that but nobody rags on a show that shows God maliciously abandoning his creation and murderous Angels slaughtered mankind and each other?
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Old February 27 2014, 05:09 AM   #288
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Part of me was hoping Kevin would still come back to life, but I guess he's gone for good.
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Old February 27 2014, 05:24 AM   #289
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How come every week of this show looks like a back door pilot?
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Old February 27 2014, 10:52 AM   #290
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^^ Since they had been developing a spin off, a lot of them probably are. And a lot of them I would be happy to see as series-- especially the Golem and Oz.

It was great to see Mrs Tran again. I love her. She had been in solitary confinement for a year, and within sixty seconds of being released, she pwned Sam with the wiring.

I did find the revelation that the ghosts can't go to Heaven very interesting. Are they foreshadowing a rampage of insane ghosts later in the season?

And are they also foreshadowing something strange going on with Crowley? It was interesting that he had not returned to the storage facility, nor was he returning Dean's calls. Given the big crush he has on Dean, I don't see him ignoring him like that.
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Old February 27 2014, 11:06 AM   #291
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We were told that Heaven was locked when the Angels fell.

It's possible one of us misunderstood what it meant if it was only the angels that were locked out and not everyone at the beginning of the season.

Crowley hasn't been back to the Storage for a year because he was in a cell in the men of Letters basement, and now he's fighting Abadon. What's at the storage facility was his tools for running his empire, currently he's in a civil war to reclaim the right to run that empire.

The wrong tools for today's job.
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Old February 27 2014, 01:16 PM   #292
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And are they also foreshadowing something strange going on with Crowley? It was interesting that he had not returned to the storage facility, nor was he returning Dean's calls. Given the big crush he has on Dean, I don't see him ignoring him like that.
He's currently at the bottom of the ocean searching for the First Blade. I don't imagine reception is good down there.
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Old February 27 2014, 01:36 PM   #293
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I also took it to be a reference to them slightly humanizing Crowley when they exorcised him or whatever they did at the end of last season.
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Old February 27 2014, 11:52 PM   #294
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I did find the revelation that the ghosts can't go to Heaven very interesting. Are they foreshadowing a rampage of insane ghosts later in the season
My guess is that now that they know people's spirits can't move on to Heaven, they'll realize that if they again try to seal up Hell the way Metatron has closed Heaven, then those spirits bound for Hell would become trapped in the veil, too. And those spirits would be far worse than the ones destined for Heaven. So in the end Sam and Dean decide both Heaven and Hell need to remain open, for the good of the planet.

That's just my guess, though. I'm probably wrong.
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Old February 28 2014, 12:07 AM   #295
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They can't close hell without redoing the Trials from th ebeginning again which will kill one of them.

Oh no.

In the final episode, one of them is made king of the angels and rules Heaven, and the other is made king of the demons and rules Hell.

Well, now that we know how it ends, I guess there's no point in watching any more.
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Old February 28 2014, 02:51 AM   #296
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They can't close hell without redoing the Trials from th ebeginning again which will kill one of them.

Oh no.
Yeah. My theory would require them to either do the trials again or magically figure out another way to close Hell.
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Old February 28 2014, 03:35 AM   #297
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The King of Hell has the keys to the front gate.
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Old February 28 2014, 10:54 AM   #298
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And are they also foreshadowing something strange going on with Crowley? It was interesting that he had not returned to the storage facility, nor was he returning Dean's calls. Given the big crush he has on Dean, I don't see him ignoring him like that.
He's currently at the bottom of the ocean searching for the First Blade. I don't imagine reception is good down there.
Yeah, somebody reminded me of that last night. I had forgotten. Like Mr Light, I was thinking it had something to do with the "purge."

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In the final episode, one of them is made king of the angels and rules Heaven, and the other is made king of the demons and rules Hell.
I've been thinking that since the 2nd or 3rd season.
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Old February 28 2014, 04:15 PM   #299
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Seems to me that they're setting Castiel up as the "king of Heaven." Especially with this episode.

I sincerely doubt either of the Winchesters would take the mantle of the king of Hell, nor would either really want to be the king of Heaven either.
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Old February 28 2014, 05:41 PM   #300
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It's possible one of us misunderstood what it meant if it was only the angels that were locked out and not everyone at the beginning of the season.

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Bruno Mars felt like he was locked out of heaven, too.
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