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Old February 26 2014, 04:15 PM   #571
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I actually think it's good. It's very simple, with a lot of latitude.
It really doesn't change anything, though. The rule explicitly states that once he has the ball, the catcher can still block the plate. It was already not allowed for the catcher to block the plate without the ball, so I don't see where this "rule" actually changes anything.

Basically, it's been against the rules but never gets called. Ergo, I expect it to continue to never get called.
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Old February 26 2014, 04:23 PM   #572
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I actually think it's good. It's very simple, with a lot of latitude.
It really doesn't change anything, though. The rule explicitly states that once he has the ball, the catcher can still block the plate. It was already not allowed for the catcher to block the plate without the ball, so I don't see where this "rule" actually changes anything.

Basically, it's been against the rules but never gets called. Ergo, I expect it to continue to never get called.
Exactly.

I think this rule gives an unfair advantage to the catcher.

The same situation exists at 2nd and 3rd, but the fielders chose not to put their bodies in harms way (most of the time). The difference for the play at home is the catcher is all armored up and they CHOSE to block the plate and take on an "unarmoured" base runner. I'd say 99 percent of all collisions are caused by a catcher chosing to block home to stop the run, bot base-runner "leaving the baseline" to intientionally take out the catcher.
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Old February 26 2014, 07:17 PM   #573
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I actually think it's good. It's very simple, with a lot of latitude.
It really doesn't change anything, though. The rule explicitly states that once he has the ball, the catcher can still block the plate. It was already not allowed for the catcher to block the plate without the ball, so I don't see where this "rule" actually changes anything.

Basically, it's been against the rules but never gets called. Ergo, I expect it to continue to never get called.
Exactly.

I think this rule gives an unfair advantage to the catcher.
Not really, because it's already been against the rules for years. This is a rule change that doesn't actually change anything.

In other news, the Angels sign Mike Trout to a 1 / 1 deal. Nice bit of luxury tax evasion there; MLB really needs to fix those loopholes.
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Old February 26 2014, 08:21 PM   #574
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It really doesn't change anything, though. The rule explicitly states that once he has the ball, the catcher can still block the plate. It was already not allowed for the catcher to block the plate without the ball, so I don't see where this "rule" actually changes anything.

Basically, it's been against the rules but never gets called. Ergo, I expect it to continue to never get called.
Exactly.

I think this rule gives an unfair advantage to the catcher.
Not really, because it's already been against the rules for years. This is a rule change that doesn't actually change anything.

In other news, the Angels sign Mike Trout to a 1 / 1 deal. Nice bit of luxury tax evasion there; MLB really needs to fix those loopholes.
The rules DOES change things. Whether that is needed is another story.

Not sure it was a LT thing with Trout, could be but if you were Trout wouldn't you suck that market up when you time came? I think he turned down a multi-year offer from the Angels.
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Old February 26 2014, 08:32 PM   #575
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Not sure it was a LT thing with Trout, could be but if you were Trout wouldn't you suck that market up when you time came? I think he turned down a multi-year offer from the Angels.
Trout is going to be entering arbitration soon, and the Angels are going to extend him -- everyone knows it. By renewing him for 2014 before the extension (if they dont change the terms of the 2014 renewal), it doesnt change the 2014 tax ... whereas if they signed the extension before renewing him, theyd get hit with a tax bill and lose the 2014 reset (the reset that had the Yankees gunning for Project 189 for so long). So now they're going to sign him to a massive 2015 contract. This was entirely a luxury tax scam.
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Not sure it was a LT thing with Trout, could be but if you were Trout wouldn't you suck that market up when you time came? I think he turned down a multi-year offer from the Angels.
Trout is going to be entering arbitration soon, and the Angels are going to extend him -- everyone knows it. By renewing him for 2014 before the extension (if they don’t change the terms of the 2014 renewal), it doesn’t change the 2014 tax ... whereas if they signed the extension before renewing him, they’d get hit with a tax bill and lose the 2014 reset (the reset that had the Yankees gunning for Project 189 for so long). So now they're going to sign him to a massive 2015 contract. This was entirely a luxury tax scam.
I don't know that I would call that a 'scam'... seems pretty smart to me.

The Angels will only extend him if he wants to stay.

Not sure why the #1 player in all of baseball wouldn't want to be a free agent.
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Not sure it was a LT thing with Trout, could be but if you were Trout wouldn't you suck that market up when you time came? I think he turned down a multi-year offer from the Angels.
Trout is going to be entering arbitration soon, and the Angels are going to extend him -- everyone knows it. By renewing him for 2014 before the extension (if they dont change the terms of the 2014 renewal), it doesnt change the 2014 tax ... whereas if they signed the extension before renewing him, theyd get hit with a tax bill and lose the 2014 reset (the reset that had the Yankees gunning for Project 189 for so long). So now they're going to sign him to a massive 2015 contract. This was entirely a luxury tax scam.
"Scam" is such an ugly word...

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The O's gave Johan Santana a minor league contract. In his tryouts his top velocity was 81, with him averaging 77-78 on his fastball.
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Old March 5 2014, 03:47 AM   #579
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Which makes Johan "oh god my arm is falling off" Santana healthier than Grant Balfour in the eyes of the O's.
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Old March 7 2014, 09:27 PM   #580
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^ Speaking of arms falling off, Dr. Frank Jobe has passed.

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If there's a place in the BB HOF for doctors, this guy should get a shot. How many careers in the last 40 years were saved because of Tommy John surgery?
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Old March 7 2014, 09:37 PM   #581
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^ Speaking of arms falling off, Dr. Frank Jobe has passed.

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If there's a place in the BB HOF for doctors, this guy should get a shot. How many careers in the last 40 years were saved because of Tommy John surgery?
It honestly bothers me that John, a good but not great pitcher, got the Hall of Fame push from it, as though he were the one who invented the surgery. Dr. Jobe changed the game as we know it.
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Carmen Berra - wife of Yogi - has died.
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Old March 7 2014, 11:46 PM   #583
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The O's gave Johan Santana a minor league contract. In his tryouts his top velocity was 81, with him averaging 77-78 on his fastball.
He needs to retire.
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Old March 8 2014, 10:27 PM   #584
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FOX has announced its baseball coverage lineups. Joe Buck, Harold Reynolds and Tom Verducci will be their A-team for this season; they're also going to do their studio coverage in-house again with Kevin Burkhardt as host and Frank Thomas, Gabe Kapler, CJ Nitkowski and Eric Karros as analysts. Ryan Field will be the fill-in host when Burkhardt is working for SNY. They'll also produce a Baseball Tonight competitor in MLB Whiparound Show with the same analysts and Chris Myers and Ryan Field hosting.

Ouch. I almost wish McCarver were back.
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Not sure how I feel about Reynolds on-air, but Verducci is pretty good.
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