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Old February 22 2014, 01:20 PM   #16
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Re: These Are The Voyages: Season 2...

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From Ralph Senesky's Blog, Director of some TOS episodes and a boatload of other beloved episodic TV:

This was my first STAR TREK without Gene Coon as producer (and of course as writer). He stated he was leaving because he was burned out. Iíve wondered if Paramountís purchase of Desilu Studio, with the subsequent shortening of the shooting schedule (and whatever other restrictions the new regime brought) could have contributed to Geneís burnout. I for one certainly missed This was my first STAR TREK without Gene Coon as producer (and of course as writer). He stated he was leaving because he was burned out. Iíve wondered if Paramountís purchase of Desilu Studio, with the subsequent shortening of the shooting schedule (and whatever other restrictions the new regime brought) could have contributed to Geneís burnout. I for one certainly missed him.
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I always thought it had to do with his bringing the Klingons on board, or creative differences with the POB...
Look I'm just putting this out there. I don't know if its true but I heard somewhere that Gene Coon (I think) had some marital difficulties - a broken heart. Maybe that affected his decision ?
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Old February 22 2014, 04:37 PM   #17
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Over the years the most oft reason I've heard for Coon leaving was extreme fatigue. It was just too exhausting for him and his health was suffering.
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Old February 22 2014, 04:50 PM   #18
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From Ralph Senesky's Blog, Director of some TOS episodes and a boatload of other beloved episodic TV:

This was my first STAR TREK without Gene Coon as producer (and of course as writer). He stated he was leaving because he was burned out. Iíve wondered if Paramountís purchase of Desilu Studio, with the subsequent shortening of the shooting schedule (and whatever other restrictions the new regime brought) could have contributed to Geneís burnout. I for one certainly missed This was my first STAR TREK without Gene Coon as producer (and of course as writer). He stated he was leaving because he was burned out. Iíve wondered if Paramountís purchase of Desilu Studio, with the subsequent shortening of the shooting schedule (and whatever other restrictions the new regime brought) could have contributed to Geneís burnout. I for one certainly missed him.
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I always thought it had to do with his bringing the Klingons on board, or creative differences with the POB...
Look I'm just putting this out there. I don't know if its true but I heard somewhere that Gene Coon (I think) had some marital difficulties - a broken heart. Maybe that affected his decision ?
Coon's marital troubles which led to his departure from the show are thoroughly documented in Inside Star Trek.
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Old February 24 2014, 01:59 AM   #19
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Re: These Are The Voyages: Season 2...

The book is now available for pre-order on the publisher's website.
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Old February 24 2014, 03:23 AM   #20
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The book is now available for pre-order on the publisher's website.
I don't think you can actually order or pre-order it until March 3rd. There's no link there yet for pre-ordering.
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Old February 24 2014, 08:17 AM   #21
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The book is now available for pre-order on the publisher's website.
I don't think you can actually order or pre-order it until March 3rd. There's no link there yet for pre-ordering.
Try http://jbmj-book-store.myshopify.com...tos-season-two.
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Old February 24 2014, 05:29 PM   #22
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The book is now available for pre-order on the publisher's website.
I don't think you can actually order or pre-order it until March 3rd. There's no link there yet for pre-ordering.
Try http://jbmj-book-store.myshopify.com...tos-season-two.
That's a LOT better cover....in a week or so, Amazon should have it.
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Old February 24 2014, 08:52 PM   #23
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It is a much better cover and I'm eager to read this. I find the step-by-step developments of the episodes fascinating. Even the stories that didn't make it are interesting. And, of course, there is the behind-the-scenes shennanigans that are interesting as well.

With Harvey's invaluable aid it will interesting fact chacking this one, too.
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Old February 25 2014, 03:25 AM   #24
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I ordered mine today. Thanks for the heads up
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Old February 25 2014, 05:02 AM   #25
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Re: These Are The Voyages: Season 2...

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It is a much better cover and I'm eager to read this. I find the step-by-step developments of the episodes fascinating. Even the stories that didn't make it are interesting. And, of course, there is the behind-the-scenes shennanigans that are interesting as well.

With Harvey's invaluable aid it will interesting fact chacking this one, too.
Someone please pass on to Harvey's partner, friends, and family our apologies. Harv is going to be busy for a while...
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Old February 25 2014, 05:13 AM   #26
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I haven't seen any memos from "Bread and Circuses" indicating a massive fight. There's a letter for WGA arbitration in which the two indicate they want to share credit 50-50 for the episode which suggests the opposite.

Inside Star Trek went into rather intimate detail about Coon's departure, anyway (and it wasn't a fight). I'm not sure Cushman can present much more than that. Considering the two collaborated on Questor only a few years later, as well as other correspondence, I find the idea that they had a blow-up pretty suspect. But, we'll see...
Considering how GR could mend fences when it was beneficial for him to do so (Ellison in the pre-TMP years), it could be he had to go to Coon hat-in-hand for the QUESTOR rewrite. Then again, it could be that the material actually spoke to Coon, because I find the QUESTOR antagonist to be just superbly realized, in part because of actor John Vernon but also because he is so well-written, and his dialog just HAS to be Coon's.

I figure GR had to be jealous of the fact Coon made his show work better in a lot of ways than he had set out to do, and maybe GR didn't like the comedy aspects either, unless the comedy originated with him (anti-Christian type sentiments.)

The fact Shatner has always been so unstinting with his praise for Coon (and that goes back to the 70s with his SHATNER WHERE NO MAN book, which has him saying something like Gene Coon, by leaps and bounds above everybody else, is what made the show work) has always been a pretty heavy signifier for me.
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Old February 25 2014, 05:27 AM   #27
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Agree with all your points.

Feel free to take this with a pinch of salt guys, this is not verified, just something I've heard a few times in a few different places...

Apparently Coon was Christian and GR (clearly not being one), hated the ending. Equally Coon hated the jabs at TV networks that GR wanted in there. The writing process became a tug of war, and Coon - exhausted by the goings-on well covered in this thread, decided to walk.

However it happened, his departure was a massive, massive loss for the show.
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Old February 25 2014, 05:57 AM   #28
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It is a much better cover and I'm eager to read this. I find the step-by-step developments of the episodes fascinating. Even the stories that didn't make it are interesting. And, of course, there is the behind-the-scenes shennanigans that are interesting as well.

With Harvey's invaluable aid it will interesting fact chacking this one, too.
Someone please pass on to Harvey's partner, friends, and family our apologies. Harv is going to be busy for a while...
I just started a new job and won't be giving Cushman any more of my hard earned cash. But if people want to pass along information from the book I'd be happy to look things up. My own research has slowed, but certainly hasn't stopped.

Interesting legal move on the cover there, indicating that the image is from one of the advertising "bumpers." That seems pretty shadey to me, but I'm no legal expert.
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Old March 1 2014, 06:19 AM   #29
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Official release date is March 26th.
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Old March 1 2014, 03:09 PM   #30
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Here's an excerpt from Volume 2 dealing with "Amok Time:" http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.c...timerdquo.html
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