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Old February 20 2014, 11:44 AM   #46
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Re: What main cast members if any do you think were bad actors?

Well I would have promoted Kim when Paris was demoted. It would have changed the character dynamics between those two, as it wasn't uncommon for those two characters to be put together.
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Old February 20 2014, 12:12 PM   #47
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I wouldn't say he's a bad actor because he does very occasionally show some talent, but Robert Beltran as Chakotay is one of the most obvious examples of someone just being there for the pay cheque.
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Old February 20 2014, 12:14 PM   #48
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Never realized the disdain for Beltran among a lot of Trek fans

He doesn't really raise an eyebrow for me either way
Kind of similar with me. He could do well, like in Equinox, but most of the time he was just phoning it in.

It was the writers fault though, they had this great oppertunity with the character but just made him a lap-dog.
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Old February 20 2014, 11:08 PM   #49
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Grace Lee Whitney's performance in Voyager's "Flashback." I mean, I appreciated seeing her reprise her character, and actually have some meaty scenes as Janice Rand for the first time since she left TOS...

... but Holy Expletive. If it wasn't Whitney-as-Rand for the 30th Anniversary festivities, she never would have been cast otherwise. Her "performance" was painful to watch.
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Old February 20 2014, 11:35 PM   #50
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Never realized the disdain for Beltran among a lot of Trek fans

He doesn't really raise an eyebrow for me either way
Kind of similar with me. He could do well, like in Equinox, but most of the time he was just phoning it in.

It was the writers fault though, they had this great oppertunity with the character but just made him a lap-dog.
I agree. I never got the hate for him. Sure by a point he is phoning it in...but he is quite solid and a likable mainstay throughout the show. Its the writers fault that Chakotay was marginalized.
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Old February 20 2014, 11:58 PM   #51
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From what I've heard of Beltran's other stuff he is a good actor. But he did not act well in Voyager. In the episodes where he had an adventure role like Shattered or Waking Moments he did fine. Just his chemistry with the other actors wasn't there when he needed to be emotional.
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Old February 23 2014, 05:49 AM   #52
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I never thought much of Alexander Siddig's acting in DS9, especially the early seasons... but he's delivered some excellent performances in his post-DS9 career.
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Old February 23 2014, 10:11 AM   #53
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Re: What main cast members if any do you think were bad actors?

^ this. He did improve a lot (as did Visitor). I defend Blalock on same grounds.

I'd say of all the shows - even TNG, which I'm not a fan of but had good actors - Beltran is probably my vote for worst actor (though occasionally he rose to the occasion). McFadden a close second.

Shame no poll though.
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Old February 23 2014, 02:12 PM   #54
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It wasn't just the material, there was an occasional really bad actor. Crosby couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag.
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Old February 23 2014, 03:13 PM   #55
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Garrett Wang was awful in Voyager.


Nobody likes Wang.
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Old February 23 2014, 03:54 PM   #56
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Morpheus 02 wrote: View Post
So C.E. Evans mentioned Mayweather's original conception. He would have still worked as a young Ensign, but then show him more knowledgeable, such as treating a certain alien in a way THEY would be accustomed too (as opposed to T
Pol's Vulcan logic) or tricking a crew member into eating a certain alien dish.
The only reason why Mayweather was made an ensign was because they ultimately went with a younger actor than Keating. Montgomery seemed about the right age to be an ensign to them (or at the very least, not the same rank as Lieutenant Reed). But I think that also made the idea of a young ensign telling older officers what to do less appealing to the writers and producers.
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Old February 24 2014, 01:03 AM   #57
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Re: What main cast members if any do you think were bad actors?

I can echo Jolene Blalock. I'm not going to match her against Leonard Nimoy because that isn't fair, but Tim Russ took an emotionless Vulcan and made him interesting week after week with tone, mannerisms etc. Blalock spent the first two seasons pouting, played a broken drug addicted T'Pol way over the top in season three, before finally finding a groove in Season 4. But by that point, she was in such a deep hole that she had to get back to ground level. Her SG1 performance was even worse and I pity Christopher Judge for having to play off that.
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Old February 24 2014, 04:42 AM   #58
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Garrett Wang was awful in Voyager.
Some actors are accused of phoning it in, Garrett wouldn't even call.


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Old February 24 2014, 04:48 AM   #59
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Re: What main cast members if any do you think were bad actors?

Baccula as Archer.

I loved Scott Baccula in Quantumn Leap but not in Enterprise.
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Old February 24 2014, 11:11 AM   #60
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Garrett Wang was awful in Voyager.
Some actors are accused of phoning it in, Garrett wouldn't even call.


Wang claims that the producers demanded the human characters to appear as lifeless as possible to make the aliens appear more alien.

I'm serious, he said that. Complaining that they never used any of the great acting he produced.
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