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Old February 21 2014, 06:11 PM   #16
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Re: Why don't they crash?

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Is this question posed to the real world or the Trek world?
This is the sci/tech forum. There's a separate Trek tech forum.
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Old February 21 2014, 06:17 PM   #17
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And if we look at the flip-side of that analogy, how do the starships so unerringly find the destination stars over such vast distances?
Oh, that's easy. Just point the ship at the little dot and say, "Engage!"

When Captain Kirk said, "Second star to the right and straight on till morning", he wasn't quoting anything; he was giving specific course instructions.
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Old February 22 2014, 11:26 AM   #18
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Re: Why don't they crash?

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And if we look at the flip-side of that analogy, how do the starships so unerringly find the destination stars over such vast distances?
Oh, that's easy. Just point the ship at the little dot and say, "Engage!"

When Captain Kirk said, "Second star to the right and straight on till morning", he wasn't quoting anything; he was giving specific course instructions.
They say "Course: 1765 Mark 5! Engage!" this will take you straight to Vulcan. Everyone knows that! And they can do it from memory at any relative position in space without consulting any kind of starcharts first.
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Old February 22 2014, 12:45 PM   #19
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Re: Why don't they crash?

The answer to the question is contained in hundreds of episodes. They plot a course.
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Old February 22 2014, 06:11 PM   #20
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And if we look at the flip-side of that analogy, how do the starships so unerringly find the destination stars over such vast distances?
Math.
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Old February 22 2014, 06:37 PM   #21
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Re: Why don't they crash?

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If these spaceships are going faster than the speed of light, then presumably they're moving faster than it would take them to see upcoming stars.

So how come they never run into one?

Warp speed is supposed to be like ftl right?
The chances of colliding are very low. Space is huge, stars are rare and tiny.

Besides, magic sensors aside, they already know where the stars are and they know where they are and they know where they are headed at what speed - the computer does the rest.

The viewscreens are not a window or camera view, they are a computer simulation.
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Old February 22 2014, 11:16 PM   #22
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The viewscreens are not a window or camera view, they are a computer simulation.
*Ring,Ring*
"Yes?... Yes, he is here. just a moment, please."

Relayer1, phone call for you. A Mr JJ Abrams would like a word with you.

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Old February 22 2014, 11:33 PM   #23
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Re: Why don't they crash?

I prefer to believe that the JJprise has a window equipped with state of the art computer assisted overlay.

Let's call it a smartwindow...
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Old February 23 2014, 09:56 PM   #24
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Re: Why don't they crash?

I'm not quite sure what the newest theories are but there used to be one in the 70s that said that warp drive is quite literally that. You warp space, build a tunnel - an artificial wormhole, basically - and fly through it at a lower speed than light. The result will appear to be hyper-light speed. (So, basically you cheat and just take a shortcut from A to B instead of actually flying faster)

Such a wormhole would automatically avoid all stars (else it'd get plugged and collapse before it is fully established).
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Old February 24 2014, 12:42 AM   #25
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Magic!
You mean sufficiently enough technology, right?
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Old February 28 2014, 11:32 PM   #26
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Old March 1 2014, 08:58 PM   #27
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Let's hope it is both:
http://www.technologyreview.com/view...dron-collider/
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Old March 12 2014, 07:39 AM   #28
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Re: Why don't they crash?

If we go by this calculator:

http://www.anycalculator.com/warpcalculator.htm

which is based on warp speeds mentioned in several sources:

Going from Earth to Alpha Centauri at warp 9 would take a full day. At the Enterprise's top speed of warp 9.6, it's still taking 12 hours to get there.

If we use Voyager's top speed of warp 9.975, It still takes 2 hours to get there.

Meaning even the fastest ships in the Federation have absolutely zero chance of bumping into any stars at all if they plot a course towards a particular star. Even these insane speeds are not enough to get the odd start here and there to pass them by every few hours or so.

The star fields and stretch effects might be due to relativistic visual distortions?

As a note, holy shit Voyager is fast! At top speed they could have made the trip back to Earth in 3.5 years! Why was it going to take them 70 years? They couldn't keep up the top speed?
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Old March 12 2014, 08:15 AM   #29
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Yeah, they couldn't maintain that speed. It would burn out the engines. It would be like driving a car engine at max rpm. You would greatly decrease the operational life.
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Old March 12 2014, 08:24 AM   #30
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With all this talk about warp drives and such, since this is the science forum, I thought I'd get some actual science here:

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