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Old February 23 2014, 01:32 AM   #31
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Re: Why Number One?

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Questions are almost always more interesting than answers. If I'd been making the show and had that character I'd have never revealed her real name, just like we never learned Spock's family name.
Or how to pronounce his first name. Which kind of begs the question, what is "Spock," a middle name?


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Old February 23 2014, 02:17 AM   #32
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Questions are almost always more interesting than answers. If I'd been making the show and had that character I'd have never revealed her real name, just like we never learned Spock's family name.
Or how to pronounce his first name. Which kind of begs the question, what is "Spock," a middle name?


A diminutive. His full name is Spockadvoratrelundar
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Old February 23 2014, 02:29 AM   #33
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Judging by the scene on Vulcan in TMP, his real name is "Shhhpock."
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Old February 23 2014, 02:36 AM   #34
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Or it's a human name from his mother's family.
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Old February 23 2014, 06:20 AM   #35
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Judging by the scene on Vulcan in TMP, his real name is "Shhhpock."
Close. It's "Shhhpoa(PHLEM)."
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Old February 23 2014, 02:41 PM   #36
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T'Pau: "Spook."




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Old February 23 2014, 11:57 PM   #37
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I thought 'Spock' was his first name.
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Old February 24 2014, 12:39 AM   #38
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Maybe his name is Spock Ukoodentpronownsit.

Nerys Myk wrote:
Or it's a human name from his mother's family.
I'll guess that his middle name is Jackson. Since Nimoy's first name was used for McCoy (which always seemed a bit self-aware to me), maybe DeForest Kelley's first name is Spock's middle name.
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Old February 24 2014, 05:57 AM   #39
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Maybe his name is Spock Ukoodentpronownsit.

Nerys Myk wrote:
Or it's a human name from his mother's family.
I'll guess that his middle name is Jackson. Since Nimoy's first name was used for McCoy (which always seemed a bit self-aware to me), maybe DeForest Kelley's first name is Spock's middle name.
Some of my Asian coworkers have adopted Western first names like Steve and Lisa, probably for the benefit of their non-Asian coworkers like me that would have trouble pronouncing their real first names if we had to.

Anyway, I can see Spock adopting a "human" first name like Issac or Albert.
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Old February 24 2014, 04:20 PM   #40
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It can't be easy to establish a character rather than a type in a pilot episode. But compare "The Cage" with "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and in there is a marked difference. WNMHGB radiates energy and the characters come across as more fleshed out even though we still know next to nothing about them. Shatner is magnetic as Kirk as opposed to a sense of detachment with Hunter. All the characters in WNMHGB seem to have more presence. The inclusion of Sulu, Scotty and even Alden in the background is a step away from the all white, all American like cast in "The Cage." It's not hard to see, though, how "The Cage" setup could have been tweaked to work much better.
Boyce in "The Cage" does a lot more than Piper (and thus has a lot more "presence") does in WNMHGB. The first pilot is basically interested in Pike, Number One, Boyce and Colt. While Nimoy is the second billed regular, Spock (along with Tyler) is pretty much peripheral to the actual plot.
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Old February 24 2014, 05:40 PM   #41
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Or how to pronounce his first name. Which kind of [raises] the question, what is "Spock," a middle name?
To be fair, Leila asks if he had "another" name. Spock wasn't specified as his first or last.

I figure his deflection was him just screwing with her. It's really "Carl."
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Old February 25 2014, 07:08 PM   #42
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Dorothy Fontana, in her Pike-era based novel, Vulcan's Glory, has Number One reveal to Pike that she comes from a planet of genetically engineered women, and that she was literally the Number one female intellect of her generation
Which is essentially the personal character background that Majel Barrett created for herself when preparing for the role. She mentioned it in a "Starlog" interview, IIRC.

And DC gives the planet as Ilyria.
Wow. I pulled that out of my ass & I was right? Huh. Well, squirrels, nuts...

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. . . Early Voyages say her last name is Robbins and her first name begins "Eu--."
Eudora? Eugenia? Eugenie? Eula? Eulalia? Eulalie? Eunice? Euphemia? Eurydice? Eustacia?
Euterpe.

And as for Spock's first name, tout le monde knows it's "Harold".
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Old February 25 2014, 10:39 PM   #43
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And as for Spock's first name, tout le monde knows it's "Harold".
I thought Spock's last name was ``Columbo''.
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Old February 25 2014, 10:42 PM   #44
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Because she runs the Village.
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Old February 25 2014, 11:38 PM   #45
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And as for Spock's first name, tout le monde knows it's "Harold".
I thought Spock's last name was ``Columbo''.
Columbo's first name was Lieutenant!
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