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Old February 21 2014, 03:58 PM   #16
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The Naked Now was the Spock's Brain of TNG. It's not really the worst episode ever, but at a point when expectations were high, this episode was a crushing disappointment to see after the premiere. Much like Spock's Brain must have been to the fans who wrote letters and campaigned to save the series. "All that work and THIS is the episode we get?"
I was sixteen when the episode premiered and I loved it. I just watched it again a few weeks ago on the Blu-ray set and its still a fun episode to watch. I still love it.
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Old February 21 2014, 04:41 PM   #17
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Part of the problem with "The Naked Now" is that it came far too soon in the series. It smacks of being a copycat and wannabe effort, right done to the title, at a time the series needed to be striving for its own identity. It also struggled with the cast not yet comfortable with their roles. Instead of being intrigued with its approach I found it embarassing.

If "The Naked Now" had been done in 2nd or 3rd season it likely would have come across completely differently.
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Old February 22 2014, 02:04 AM   #18
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"The Naked Time": Definitely one of the classic, top-ten-list episodes of TOS. Good stuff.
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Old February 22 2014, 03:26 AM   #19
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9.5

As important an episode in the series - for all the obvious reason already stated by others. From about the moment Spock starts wobbling through the corridor, then entering the briefing room, back against the closed door, is just about the exact moment that Star Trek became...well....STAR TREK. Nimoy's amazing one take performance at the briefing room dest, the retaking of engineering, and finding out the engines are turned OFF, all through the end of the show is as exciting as it gets folks.

One thought about Kirk's 'sudden' infection - would it at the least feasible that Spock's Vulcan physiology might have slightly mutated the virus, made it faster to infect? Just a thought....
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Old February 22 2014, 03:30 AM   #20
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One thought about Kirk's 'sudden' infection - would it at the least feasible that Spock's Vulcan physiology might have slightly mutated the virus, made it faster to infect? Just a thought....
Maybe. Then again Kirk might already have been infected given the way he snapped at Uhura earlier.
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Old February 22 2014, 03:37 AM   #21
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I give it a 10.

My take on when people caught the disease:

Joe when he took his glove off down on the planet,
Sulu and Riley when they tried to stop Joe from suicide,
Kirk and Spock when they stopped Sulu's escapade on the Bridge.

Spock touches Chapel in Sick Bay but Spock had already nerve pinched Sulu a while back. Kirk gets belted by Spock in the Briefing Room but, again, Kirk was wrestling with a bare chested Sulu earlier in the story, too.
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Old February 22 2014, 03:56 AM   #22
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1) Joe Tormolen is an idiot. From the crappy environment suits to him taking his glove off and then not saying anything afterward (apparently thinking decon would take care of
it) was just ridiculous.
Every person I've ever watched this show with (including my 6 year old) thinks Tormolen is an idiot! It takes the gloss a little off this othrwise classic episode. I suppose, yeah, he could have just assumed de-contamination could have fixed things.

One thing I really enjoy about these early TOS episodes is the greater budget allowed for us to spend a bit of time with crew members other than Kirk, Spock and Bones. I would have liked to keep bumping into the likes of Janice, Riley, DeSalle, Kelowitz, etc in seasons two and three.

As for the TNG remake, I loved it as well, and thought it was one of the more entertaining early episodes. I can see how it would have disappointed a lot of content-starved Trekkers in 1987, though - "episode 2 and they're doing remakes already".
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Old February 22 2014, 02:18 PM   #23
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As for the TNG remake, I loved it as well, and thought it was one of the more entertaining early episodes. I can see how it would have disappointed a lot of content-starved Trekkers in 1987, though - "episode 2 and they're doing remakes already".
The one that killed me was "Code of Honor" which aired the week after "The Naked Now". Painfully bad then and painfully bad now.
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Old February 22 2014, 04:41 PM   #24
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One thing I really enjoy about these early TOS episodes is the greater budget allowed for us to spend a bit of time with crew members other than Kirk, Spock and Bones. I would have liked to keep bumping into the likes of Janice, Riley, DeSalle, Kelowitz, etc in seasons two and three.
Yes, for me this is a definite strength for the early episodes. One of the things I liked about B5, NuBSG, and DS9 was the multi-tiered cast. You get more of a sense of Uhura's and Sulu's characters in the early episodes than most of the rest of the series combined. I would really have enjoyed seeing Riley and Rand reappear for one or two meaty episodes per season.
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Old February 23 2014, 02:21 AM   #25
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Part of the problem with "The Naked Now" is that it came far too soon in the series. It smacks of being a copycat and wannabe effort, right done to the title, at a time the series needed to be striving for its own identity. It also struggled with the cast not yet comfortable with their roles. Instead of being intrigued with its approach I found it embarassing.

If "The Naked Now" had been done in 2nd or 3rd season it likely would have come across completely differently.
I absolutely hate 'The Naked Now'. Made me dislike TNG for years. I wish I'd never seen the thing.
The reason was you had the two major girl leads throwing themselves at the two major boy leads and being turned away. I just absolutely hate that. Early in TNG you had the girls there seemingly just to be on love with the boys like Chapel was with Spock in TOS (well maybe not as bad as that).

Maybe it would have been better later in the series. Maybe if it was not both Troi and Beverley.
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Old February 23 2014, 02:27 AM   #26
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^Three and three...don't forget Tasha and Data...!
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Old February 23 2014, 10:51 PM   #27
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I gave this episode a nine. The Enterprise in real trouble here, and with the crew falling to pieces at the worst possible moment. If you can keep your head while all around you are losing theirs...

Kirk really shines in this episode, struggling to save his ship and crew while the s*it hits the fan at every turn. Scotty and McCoy are as professional and reliable as ever, and my favorite Kirk-Uhura moment of all time happens here:

RILEY [OC]: Kathleen. And now, crew, one more time!
KIRK: At least try cutting him off!
UHURA: Sir, if I could cut him off, don't you think I'd-
RILEY [OC]: I'll take you home again Kathleen
UHURA: Yes, sir. I'll keep trying.
KIRK: Sorry.

We have the Spock emotional breakdown, Kirk admitting his love for/relationship with his ship, a really great Sulu freakout, and even Janice Rand taking the helm at one point!

One of my favotites for sure, certainly in my top ten.
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Old February 24 2014, 05:50 PM   #28
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And as gets pointed out here at least couple of times a year - Spock never gets the antidote shot! He literally pulls himself together, and goes directly to engineering with Scott, and then back to the bridge. We can all say, well McCoy must have given to him - but did he? Maybe the infection stayed with him in a 'supressed' way, and its might be what led Spock to try and reach kohliar, or whatever...

Or maybe not - we have been shown many times the self healing ability of Vulcans..
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I like the implication that it was Kirk's crumbling that gave Spock the focus to push off the effects of the disease.
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I like the implication that it was Kirk's crumbling that gave Spock the focus to push off the effects of the disease.
It's also possible Spock was inoculated before Kirk got the bridge. We didn't most of the crew inoculated but we can assume they were.
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