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Old February 18 2014, 02:57 PM   #61
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Regardless of the economics behind it, it's never good business sense to make your product appear "incomplete" by launching a separate release alongside it... particularly when those products are so highly priced to begin with.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:04 PM   #62
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But it doesn't appear incomplete. The interviews are only relevant to a single episode which was given a standalone release, and the interviews accompany this release.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:29 PM   #63
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But it doesn't appear incomplete.
It does to me and to all the people complaining about it, justified or not.
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Old February 18 2014, 06:08 PM   #64
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Was David Warner interviewed too?

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Old February 18 2014, 09:10 PM   #65
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particularly when those products are so highly priced to begin with.
Highly priced? TNG DVDs were $100 to $120 per season back in 2002. TNG-HD can be seen as low as $50 per season, a huge bargain considering the cost of the reconstruction. Besides, the standalone disc can be had for under $10 if you play your cards right.

CBS needs to see good sales if they are going to greenlight DS9 and Voyager HD.
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Old February 18 2014, 11:05 PM   #66
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But it doesn't appear incomplete.
It does to me and to all the people complaining about it, justified or not.
I totally get the complaints, but it isn't about trying to screw the consumer. The stand-alone is a separate release with its own separate budget. It is annoying, but no one's trying to screw us over.
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Old February 18 2014, 11:28 PM   #67
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Great news! Any word on a "Chain of Command" special edition?
It'll happen. They brought in Ronny Cox for an interview, which pretty much guaranteed it.
Ronny Cox gave a great interview, and yes - "Chain of Command" will be the single-disc release this time around.
Maybe there's a lot of demand for naked Picard in HD
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Old February 19 2014, 12:59 PM   #68
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particularly when those products are so highly priced to begin with.
Highly priced? TNG DVDs were $100 to $120 per season back in 2002. TNG-HD can be seen as low as $50 per season, a huge bargain considering the cost of the reconstruction. Besides, the standalone disc can be had for under $10 if you play your cards right.

CBS needs to see good sales if they are going to greenlight DS9 and Voyager HD.
If they are relying purely on sales of these Blu-ray sets, then I fear they are onto a loser. They are simply too much money, regardless of how much work has gone into making them.
What DVDs cost in 2002 is irrelevant to what people expect today. Streaming services like Netflix have changed the perception and 'value' we assign to our entertainment media. I don't know how the US pricing compares, but in the UK, if I want to watch all of TNG in HD, I'm looking at a cost of £300 (average 40-ish per season).

I'm kinda hoping they release a slimmer boxed version of the complete set by the end of the year, like they did over here with TOS, as that will hopefully retail for a lot less... but it remains to be seen.

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But it doesn't appear incomplete.
It does to me and to all the people complaining about it, justified or not.
I totally get the complaints, but it isn't about trying to screw the consumer. The stand-alone is a separate release with its own separate budget. It is annoying, but no one's trying to screw us over.
Whether their intentions are innocent or not, perception is everything. Having content relating to an episode (interview, commentary track) not appear on the expensive boxset with that episode, but available for a separate cost, gives the impression that we're being screwed over for seemingly no good reason.
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Old February 19 2014, 06:45 PM   #69
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IMO, $50-60 per season for a show that was pain-stakingly reconstructed frame by frame is not expensive.
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Old February 19 2014, 10:17 PM   #70
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particularly when those products are so highly priced to begin with.
Highly priced? TNG DVDs were $100 to $120 per season back in 2002. TNG-HD can be seen as low as $50 per season, a huge bargain considering the cost of the reconstruction. Besides, the standalone disc can be had for under $10 if you play your cards right.
I would have paid twice the price for extensive extras on each and every episode

They could have done it that way - 5 discs per season just the episodes in HD, or a 10 disc deluxe version. No one would have had to buy the same episodes twice that way.
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Old February 19 2014, 11:28 PM   #71
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particularly when those products are so highly priced to begin with.
Highly priced? TNG DVDs were $100 to $120 per season back in 2002. TNG-HD can be seen as low as $50 per season, a huge bargain considering the cost of the reconstruction. Besides, the standalone disc can be had for under $10 if you play your cards right.
I would have paid twice the price for extensive extras on each and every episode

They could have done it that way - 5 discs per season just the episodes in HD, or a 10 disc deluxe version. No one would have had to buy the same episodes twice that way.
But as it is we already have lots of people complaining about how long they have to wait between releases. If they had to produce a bunch of extras for each and every episode, you're probably looking at twice the wait between seasons.
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Old February 19 2014, 11:40 PM   #72
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But as it is we already have lots of people complaining about how long they have to wait between releases. If they had to produce a bunch of extras for each and every episode, you're probably looking at twice the wait between seasons.
The complaints about the wait make me laugh. Would the complainers rather S6 was sent out to an external company as S2 and S4 were? I'd much rather wait a while to get the quality that CBSD bring to the remastering. And from what I've seen of S6 so far, the wait is MORE than worth it.
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Old February 20 2014, 12:39 AM   #73
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In a year, none of us are going to care about the long gap in releases. But the quality of season 2 will be there forever. Even the bonus features won't really matter in a few years' time. It's all about getting the episodes right. Everything else is fluff in the end.

It's foreseeable that we won't see DS9 finished until 2017/2018. It's worth the wait if it's done right.
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Old February 20 2014, 04:00 AM   #74
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Exactly. I'd rather DS9 come out even only once a year before I'd want it handed over to another company. Once that Blu-ray set is in your hand, it's a done-deal for better or worse.
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Old February 20 2014, 01:27 PM   #75
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Another voice added to the call for quality over speed. When CBS do DS9 I want them to be solely responsible for it.
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