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Old February 19 2014, 02:38 AM   #7876
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The first crisis was about integration.

The Captain Marvel Family was from Earth 5 FFS.
Yeah and one of the first mini events after that was War of the Gods. I still think that Perez cover is a great piece of art. What stood out to me was that Captain Marvel was standing in the place of Batman as the center 3 figures. I wonder if that story still holds up as a contained read?
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Old February 19 2014, 03:05 AM   #7877
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The art was so bad, I couldn't take it seriously in the 90s.

If it was a good story, they would have hired a good artist.

That and saying that the Greek Gods and the Romans Gods, even the Greek and Roman Gods with the same names were all different people and in a sharks vs. jets feud.

But the covers to the Wonder Woman crossovers.

Wow.

Oh.

It's a Millennium crossover I was thinking of, which is part of something called "Challenge of the Gods".

http://www.comics.org/series/3396/covers/

Oh.

War of the Gods didn't Cross Over with Wonder Woman till the late 50s.

(I collected all this stuff third, and fourth hand, years to decades after first publication, so sometimes I can be a little off about when exactly things happened.)
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Old February 19 2014, 03:32 AM   #7878
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So what do you suppose is going on with "Superman: Doomed"? We know this is going to be Scott Lodbell's "grand finale" and that it will feature 52'Verse Doomsday proper. Are we going to see Death of Superman and different from the way Morrison told it?

Also it seems Superman is changing during this arc. Perhaps this will explain why he's absent from the Justice League.

http://www.newsarama.com/20351-dc-co...citations.html
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Old February 19 2014, 04:24 AM   #7879
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Hopefully everything Lobdell does is retconned immediately by Johns once he arrives on the scene.

Also it seems Superman is changing during this arc. Perhaps this will explain why he's absent from the Justice League.
Maybe he is going to run Argus or head their superhuman team. Johns's protege, Sterling Gates wrote most of Vibe, is currently writing Forever Evil ARGUS and will be writing the last issue of Stormwatch. So I could see them exploring that direction. Whatever they do, both the Superman and Action Comics book will actually be good for once.
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Johns and John Jr's brief interviews about their run have stated they are planning on exploring "the unknown" and that we will be seeing things about Superman we've never known before, and one in particular will redefine him. So perhaps Lobdell, Pak, and Soule are going to set up "Superman". It sounds like he won't be quite the same when we see him after Doomed and Forever Evil.
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Old February 19 2014, 07:06 AM   #7881
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After an evening of canoodling with Supergirl he discovers it is the Kryptonian male that becomes pregnant. This causes him to reevaluate his human raised self-image so that he finally comes to understand his image as a male has been self deception and he becomes the first major transgender superhero?

Doubt it, more likely just more of the same. Doomsday, the arch brick, is back. Something new? That would be new.
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Old February 19 2014, 07:09 AM   #7882
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Doomsday is in the Lobdell story though so he likely won't be in the Johns run.
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Doomsday is in the Lobdell story though so he likely won't be in the Johns run.
That's a plus.
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Old February 19 2014, 01:17 PM   #7884
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The first crisis was about integration.

The Captain Marvel Family was from Earth 5 FFS.
No, the Marvel Family was on Earth-S pre-Crisis. In the post-52 multiverse, Earth-5 was the closest equivalent to the original Earth-S.
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Old February 19 2014, 09:12 PM   #7885
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You know that you are probably arguing over fonts, right?
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Old February 19 2014, 09:27 PM   #7886
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You know that you are probably arguing over fonts, right?
I could see how that's possible with comic book lettering.

However, no, it's well established that pre-Crisis there were Earths that had letter rather than number designations, like S (for the Fawcett heroes) and X (for the Quality heroes). Oddly, the Charlton characters were on Earth-4.
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Old February 19 2014, 09:35 PM   #7887
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What were the letter designations for Earth 2 with the Justice Society, or Earth 3 with the Crime Syndicate?
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Old February 19 2014, 09:50 PM   #7888
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Then there was Earth-B.
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Old February 19 2014, 09:55 PM   #7889
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Well that's tragic.

Cocking up at your job so consistently, that they had to create an entire new universe to hide your body of work inside.
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Old February 19 2014, 10:30 PM   #7890
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I thought that Bob Hanley had the right idea - Sgt. Rock and Batman couldn't have fought together in WW2 ? - well I don't just a shit, that's the story I want to tell.
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