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Old February 8 2014, 02:39 AM   #31
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"The Wrath of Lenore". Come on, it practically writes it's self!
Don't think I haven't thought about it.
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Old February 8 2014, 04:32 AM   #32
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They'll sit her in a chair with spinning, orange lights, she'll be fixed by act two.
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Old February 8 2014, 04:33 AM   #33
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They'll sit her in a chair with spinning, orange lights, she'll be fixed by act two.
I'm sure those haven't been approved for human trials yet.

On other hand, there's that revolutionary new drug they used to cure Garth . . . .
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Old February 8 2014, 04:42 AM   #34
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Dr. Adams, Garth and Lenore team up to get revenge on Kirk!
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Old February 8 2014, 05:38 AM   #35
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Great thread. Did anyone here see Trek in first run? What was it like for you? Did all your friends talk about it at school etc? There's a bit of debate going on about how big a hit Star Trek was..very keen to hear from people.
While I was around for Trek on the original run, I'm pretty sure that the first episode I caught on its initial airing was "The Naked Time". The salt vampire and the frowning long-faced alien always creeped me out as stills behind the closing credits but I wouldn't know the stories which went with the pictures until quite a bit later, when "Man Trap" and "The Corbomite Maneuver" were shown as between-season reruns.

I can't recall whether there was much talking in school, but I remember for sure that I had a couple of friends who were into Trek. One lived in the house next door to ours, and it was from hearing him describe the plot of WNMHGB (the day after it first aired) that I learned about Star Trek in the first place.
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Old February 8 2014, 06:31 AM   #36
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The salt vampire and the frowning long-faced alien always creeped me out as stills behind the closing credits but I wouldn't know the stories which went with the pictures until quite a bit later, when "Man Trap" and "The Corbomite Maneuver" were shown as between-season reruns.
I'm sure you saw "The Man Trap" as a re-run, but it wasn't shown "between-seasons," as you remember it. Indeed, "The Man Trap" was never re-run on NBC during the show's first run. You must have seen it later, in syndication.

"The Corbomite Maneuver" did get an NBC re-run, though, on May 11, 1967.
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Old February 9 2014, 01:50 AM   #37
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I saw The Man Trap on the night it premiered back in '66. I was five.

I recall my dad telling me about a science fiction show that was coming on that night. We were relegated to the TV in mom & dad's bedroom because my mom wasn't much interested in watching a "space show."

I saw the opener and the first few minutes of the show, but got bored (remember I was 5). I recall telling my dad "That's great. I'm going to go play in my room. Call me if there are any monsters, or if they shoot their laser guns." (Of course, all space men must have laser guns.)

About 40 minutes later, my dad calls out to me from his room: "Mark! You'd better get in here. There's a monster, and I think they're going to shoot it with their laser guns..."

I ran in just in time to see the salt vampire, Kirk screaming, and McCoy firing his phaser. I was hooked.

Oddly, it wasn't until many years later that I put two and two together and realized that I had seen the first episode broadcast.

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Old February 9 2014, 01:55 AM   #38
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Oddly, it wasn't until many years later that I put two and two together and realized that I had seen the first episode broadcast.

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Yeah, growing up and watching the reruns on a constant loop in syndication, I doubt that most of knew (or cared) what order they were supposed to be in. I remember being scared by the Salt Vampire when the show ran one evening on NBC so I guess I must have that first airing, but it blurs in my memory with other nights watching Star Trek with my dad, along with The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and Batman.

I don't think that I knew that "Mantrap" was the "first" episode or that "Turnabout Intruder" was the last until I started reading books and articles on Trek in my teens.

(Remember, there was no wikipedia or internet back then.)
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Old February 9 2014, 04:45 AM   #39
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I recall our family taking a walk around the block after dinner one summer evening with me complaining that we wouldn't be back in time to watch Lost in Space.
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"The Wrath of Lenore". Come on, it practically writes it's self!
You'll need to change your sig.

The boring one, the one with Khan, the one where Spock returns, the one with whales, the dumb one, the last one, the one with Kirk, the one with the Borg, the stupid one, the bad one, the new one, the other one with Khan, the one with the psycho Shakespeare chick.
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Old February 18 2014, 08:14 PM   #41
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The salt vampire and the frowning long-faced alien always creeped me out as stills behind the closing credits but I wouldn't know the stories which went with the pictures until quite a bit later, when "Man Trap" and "The Corbomite Maneuver" were shown as between-season reruns.
I'm sure you saw "The Man Trap" as a re-run, but it wasn't shown "between-seasons," as you remember it. Indeed, "The Man Trap" was never re-run on NBC during the show's first run.
Huh. I knew that it wasn't until much later that I finally saw the episode, but I don't think I'd realized that it never had a repeat until after the series finished.

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You must have seen it later, in syndication.
I must have, and I have learned a thing I didn't know before.
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...The whole reason NBC scheduled "The Man Trap" as the series premiere is because it fit the monster-story template that so much SFTV had at the time..
Source for that assertion, please.

This has been discussed elsewhere, and it's covered in Inside Star Trek but, as I recall, of the episodes which were ready to air for the premier "The Man Trap" was the one NBC deemed most illustrative of the "strange new worlds" concept. "Where No Man" was considered "too expository, for instance. I'm not at home this week so I can't pull the book out to cite it.
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Old February 18 2014, 10:30 PM   #43
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To add a bit of historical context, however, nobody back in 1966 worried about shows being too "Monster of the Week." That wasn't even a term back them. Nobody expected ongoing story arcs or character development on network shows, let alone sci-fi adventure shows. Heck, "The Outer Limits" was literally a Monster-of-the-Week show and "The Twilight Zone" was an anthology series.
Well Greg, the term was not there when TOS was first run (it popped up in the 1970s), but from friends who watched Lost in Space on CBS ('65-'68), they said the series made them expect a monster every week. Same with most seasons of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
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To add a bit of historical context, however, nobody back in 1966 worried about shows being too "Monster of the Week." That wasn't even a term back them. Nobody expected ongoing story arcs or character development on network shows, let alone sci-fi adventure shows. Heck, "The Outer Limits" was literally a Monster-of-the-Week show and "The Twilight Zone" was an anthology series.
Well Greg, the term was not there when TOS was first run (it popped up in the 1970s), but from friends who watched Lost in Space on CBS ('65-'68), they said the series made them expect a monster every week. Same with most seasons of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
Perhaps, but I think "Monster of the Week" being a term of derision, as in "I prefer ongoing arc plots to mere 'Monster of the Week' episodes," is of far more recent vintage, dating back, probably, to Buffy or The X-Files.

Nobody in 1966 would watch "Mantrap" and fret that Trek was going to be too "Monster of the Week" because that wasn't something anybody worried about back then. Indeed, as you said, people rather expected sci-fi shows to feature a different monster every week. That was just par for the course. The Salt Vampire would not have been cause for concern.
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Perhaps, but I think "Monster of the Week" being a term of derision, as in "I prefer ongoing arc plots to mere 'Monster of the Week' episodes," is of far more recent vintage, dating back, probably, to Buffy or The X-Files.
I can't resist the opportunity to mention Shaenon K. Garrity's webcomic Monster of the Week, which is a series of very funny recaps of every X-Files episode. It'd probably be even funnier if I remembered more of the episodes it's lampooning. But I think it does demonstrate the association of that phrase with that show.
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