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Old February 18 2014, 12:24 AM   #1306
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I hope they don't slit up the group, TBH I hope they don't rush the current comic story line, let those story lines play out.
Who is going to replace Dale...Hmmmm.

Agreed, since a certain main character already tried to straighten out the perceptions/behavior of the character you refer to. I can see that playing out easily.
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Old February 18 2014, 03:17 AM   #1307
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Not sure Judith is a character so much as a plot device at this stage.
Exactly, in a way I was just hoping we wouldn't have seen her again, it would have been an easy out for the writers other than taking the comic book route.

I just hope they don't use her for fabricated drama, gang hiding? make the baby cry, Gang trying to be sneaky? make the baby cry, need to get walker attention? make the baby cry....
Getting rid of the baby at this point is just gross shock for the sake of it. The series needs to tone down the shock/stunt episodes (which littered season 3).
Oh and I agree, what I meant was if the last we ever saw of her was the bloody carrier I would have been fine with that, now I'm afraid we'll be stuck with what we had this episode, basically every scene she's in she will be crying and putting the group into danger or we need to find milk or we need to change her diaper or...., I think that will get old real fast.


As far as the season toning down? If it remotely follows the comic it will be ramping up two fold.
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Old February 18 2014, 03:37 AM   #1308
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I think Judith won't be much of a role, just a hindrance at best that they have to keep reminding us exists. I don't think they'll worry too much about bottles, diapers and such unless they need to as MacGuffin to get our characters in trouble or to cause something to happen. But it *is* possible at some point they may need to kill her off otherwise they're going to need one serious pool of babies and toddlers for the rest of the series.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:49 AM   #1309
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This was a good episode. Not really anything that stunned me, but still a solid hour

I was surprised to see the baby return, even as probable as it returning was, mostly because I thought it was a solid out for the situation. As potential shitty baby deaths go, how bad was it? I mean really, how troubled were we about it just being...... gone?

It seemed like the majority of chatter was more in line with how the group split up & such. Very little talk about how the baby could be dead, and that was possibly because people didn't believe it was dead, or because the thought of it was too horrific to mention

Whatever the reason it wasn't a hot topic, it still could have been possible, and if that had been the decided baby death scenario, frankly, you couldn't play it much better. It played well, & the aftermath would have been manageable, both in the story & among the fanbase

Now we have to continue to contend with the other potential scenarios. What if Lizzy had smothered it? Worse. What if there's a scene involving an attack and it turns? Worse. An accident, etc...

Any point that the baby dies now will be far more terrible than it might have been here, and now they have kind of spent the option of playing it like that again, because it's liable to be less impactful to have it disappear a second time, due to dramatic tedium

To be honest, as a caring person, it's pleasant to know the baby is ok, but objectively, it might have been better to have been done with it here & now, like that

On the up side, the baby is most likely safe now, until they reunite it with either Rick, Carl or both
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Old February 18 2014, 07:23 AM   #1310
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Sigh, I really want to find out how did the people who left the prison in that old bus turned into zombies. I guess i am not going to find out.
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Old February 18 2014, 07:59 AM   #1311
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The back of the bus was riddled with bullet holes so I guess that they were all shot and died. Also some were weak from sick and may have died from that as well.
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Old February 18 2014, 09:02 AM   #1312
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But one person turning couldn't have caused all that death, and we have seen that turning doesn't happen quickly. There should have been time for most everyone to get off the bus. But there it was sealed, with about a dozen walkers.
That was lazy, convenient writing, since one person turning would be easy to handle, and even if he or she managed to bite another, who would not kick the infected victim off of the bus?

The producers needed to get rid of the last of the Woodbury refugees, so they picked one that--as you pointed out--made no sense at all.
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I see a few mentions of the walker bus, if you look at the back of the bus it's pretty shot up , I took it as a bunch of people got killed.
Yeah, that was a bit lazy but it's not hard to visualize. Whoever was onboard is obviously panicking since they took off without the people they were waiting for. Perhaps there are already people onboard who were dead or dying. On top of that, one of the invaders shoots up the bus and kills a few people. All it takes is for any one of those to do a "rapid turn" and munch a couple more people. Suddenly there's mass panic. Folks stampede out of the bus, trampling a few more of their own on the way. Right there, that already accounts for the number of zombies onboard.

As for everyone else who got out of the bus: they just kept running and we won't see them again. The only smart thing they did was to shut the bus door.

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3. How did Bob’s bullet not pierce Maggie when Bob shot at the Walker that was between them?
More convenient, lazy TV stuff. At point blank range--Bob's position--the bullet would have gone through the walker and right into Maggie...but its not quite her time yet....
Now THAT was just plain lazy.
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Old February 18 2014, 09:19 AM   #1313
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If the Alexandria Safe-Zone is in Georgia and they just go there now, then what's the point of Abraham and co showing up? if...
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Old February 18 2014, 11:07 AM   #1314
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Well, the baby is alive, thank goodness, but I feel sorry for poor Tyrese, stuck with two little kids and an infant. And then he was so happy to see Carol, still not knowing that she is (maybe) the killer and was exiled. And she lied to him.

Glen was great in this episode. Lots of planning and smart moves. Maybe he should be the boss.

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4. When Maggie slammed the head of a Walker into the bus she immediately says, “I’m sorry.” Was she saying sorry to Sasha and Bob for almost getting them killed by making them help her look for Glen in the bus? Was she saying sorry ‘cause she knew the Walker she killed? Or was she just saying sorry to the random Walker whom she had never met before?
She apologized for losing it and taking out her anger on the dead person.
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Old February 18 2014, 11:52 AM   #1315
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If the Alexandria Safe-Zone is in Georgia and they just go there now, then what's the point of Abraham and co showing up? if...
IMDB lists (and I take it with a grain of salt) the season 5 opener as the Trek to D.C.

"Episode #5.1
Rick and the group are heading to Washington D.C., where they meet new danger and a new enemy. Once again, Rick must do whatever it takes to keep the rest of the group safe."


*Sigh* Me thinks the new enemy will be Negan which means season 5 could possibly be a mirror of season 4, let's just hope it's the back half of the season.

That will also mean that 5 seasons of show will have caught up to 10 years of comics and both will be in new territory.

Personally I think the Negan thing has dragged on waaaay too long in the comic (25-ish books now) and it's too close to the whole governor story line.

Also here are a few sneak peeks for next week.

Sneak Peek #1

In this conversation between Rick and Michone it certainly appears like there was no re-grouping plan in place.

Sneak Peek #2


Promo 4X11

Spanish Promo

Be warned, like the last one with Judith it may have a possible spoiler.

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Old February 18 2014, 03:40 PM   #1316
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Considering the premiere of Season 5 is almost a year away I'd take any reports on what it'll be about with LESS than a grain of salt.

I really doubt the show will movie production away from Georgia so I suspect we'll be here for the long haul. They *might* be able to using Georgia locations to match locations in other parts of the country if they head for Alexandria/D.C. But... It'd be a stretch.

As for the guy with the radio and the importance it plays in the comics, they may not translate to the show itself. He likely had it just to reproduce the comic cover they were going for on the introduction of the characters. He simply has to communicate with their camp.

All speculation on part, naturally, but I think it'd be hard for the show to depict Alexandria/D.C. while keeping production in Georgia and not having to do some extensive, and expensive, location shooting.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:01 PM   #1317
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All speculation on part, naturally, but I think it'd be hard for the show to depict Alexandria/D.C. while keeping production in Georgia and not having to do some extensive, and expensive, location shooting.
Well the film Dumb and Dumber II was filmed here in GA and they turned the city of Marietta into El Paso Texas.

Regarding this episode - it was a little slow for me. The story arcs are starting to get for me a little redundant and so are their encounters with the zombies.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:04 PM   #1318
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Considering the premiere of Season 5 is almost a year away I'd take any reports on what it'll be about with LESS than a grain of salt.

I really doubt the show will movie production away from Georgia so I suspect we'll be here for the long haul. They *might* be able to using Georgia locations to match locations in other parts of the country if they head for Alexandria/D.C. But... It'd be a stretch.

As for the guy with the radio and the importance it plays in the comics, they may not translate to the show itself. He likely had it just to reproduce the comic cover they were going for on the introduction of the characters. He simply has to communicate with their camp.

All speculation on part, naturally, but I think it'd be hard for the show to depict Alexandria/D.C. while keeping production in Georgia and not having to do some extensive, and expensive, location shooting.
Several articles I've read and even an interview with Michael Cudlitz says they will follow his(and his crew) background that story line (The trip to D.C.) pretty much verbatim.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:27 PM   #1319
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This episode had me screaming at the TV - "Don't smother that baby!" She seemed to zone out and not hear her sister at all. Something seems a bit off about her.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:43 PM   #1320
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I think Judith won't be much of a role, just a hindrance at best that they have to keep reminding us exists. I don't think they'll worry too much about bottles, diapers and such unless they need to as MacGuffin to get our characters in trouble or to cause something to happen. But it *is* possible at some point they may need to kill her off otherwise they're going to need one serious pool of babies and toddlers for the rest of the series.
Yeah, on the talking Dead they said they currently use 3 sets of twins and a fake doll to play Judith, seems like more hassle than it's worth, they had an out, I wish they had taken it.
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