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Old February 12 2014, 04:51 AM   #3031
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

When Canada becomes part of the U.S. it will have states.
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Old February 12 2014, 05:13 AM   #3032
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How many?

The power of the state reflects the votes given in the electoral college.

3 or 4 superstates, or 20 tiny knownothings states who know their place and can't collective push their unified weight around to Catch the sheer force of Canada?

If Canada was one state, it would have 4 times many electoral votes than any other state and might as well as be an overclass lording it over the plebs form Old America.
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Old February 12 2014, 07:26 AM   #3033
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

Andy Sanberg on Brooklyn 99 just said "Oh Canada, the Oodie to America's Garfield."
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Old February 12 2014, 01:28 PM   #3034
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How many?

The power of the state reflects the votes given in the electoral college.

3 or 4 superstates, or 20 tiny knownothings states who know their place and can't collective push their unified weight around to Catch the sheer force of Canada?

If Canada was one state, it would have 4 times many electoral votes than any other state and might as well as be an overclass lording it over the plebs form Old America.
Well, the Senate is fairly undemocratic as it is, so I don't have a problem giving each Province 2 Senators. Except Prince Edward Island because that would be stupid.
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Old February 13 2014, 12:51 AM   #3035
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How many?

The power of the state reflects the votes given in the electoral college.

3 or 4 superstates, or 20 tiny knownothings states who know their place and can't collective push their unified weight around to Catch the sheer force of Canada?

If Canada was one state, it would have 4 times many electoral votes than any other state and might as well as be an overclass lording it over the plebs form Old America.
I can't believe I'm entertaining this conversation, but...how's that? Canada's total population is slightly less than that of California. It's geographically 3 times the size of the U.S. (IIRC), but not nearly as densely populated.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:11 AM   #3036
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Sorry, dirty foreigner here, I'd assumed that electoral college votes were based on GDP or resources, or something as arbitrary that equates to "power" after seeing the disparity between some of the block votes attributed to each state on those election night boards. My bad. 538 electoral votes, generated from 435 congressmen, plus 100 senators, and the 3 magic representatives of the District of Colorado. Senators are 2 per state fixed, but congressmen are 1 per 700,000 citizens, although they still have to have 1 congressman per state no matter how small their state is.

Canada has a population of 35 million ( I thought it would have been twice that!), but if most of their provinces (there are only 10.) have less than 700,000, this works in their favour, that they can have an entire congressman representing 5 guys and a moose.

But still that's 30 votes minimum.

Quebec has 8 million people = 11 congressmen

Ontario has 12 million people = 17 congressmen

Alberta has 3.6 million people = 5 congressmen

british Columbia has 4.4 million people = 6 congressmen

(Every other province has almost less than a million people.)

So, that means 65 electoral votes is what Canada could chose to wield with spite is they felt petty after losing the war.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:20 AM   #3037
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and the 3 magic representatives of the District of Colorado
"Columbia", dirty foreigner.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:35 AM   #3038
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Stupid Spell check.
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Well, the Senate is fairly undemocratic as it is, so I don't have a problem giving each Province 2 Senators. Except Prince Edward Island because that would be stupid.
Wait until the Islanders hereabouts read that.

(Calling "rfmcdpei"...)

I guarantee you'll get an earful. Or the Internetified equivalent.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:51 AM   #3040
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Anyway...guessing we add Italy to the list of nations participating in SHIELD for Cinema'Verse purposes?
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Old February 13 2014, 04:49 AM   #3041
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If S.H.I.E.L.D. wasn't an international organization before aliens started invading, then it should be now.

Claremont turned S.H.I.E.L.D. into an arm of the UN in 1990 in Uncanny X-Men when the Supreme headquarters Law International Enforcement Division became the Strategic hazard intervention espionage Logistics directorate... Then half way through Garth Ennis' Punisher Nick Fury meets Frank in a bar and says "Fuck the UN, lets get #### done."

TV S.H.I.E.L.D. seems Americanicentric... It's headquarters and Schools seem to all be on American soil that even the Scotsmen have to board at, and I have not heard that many foreign accents at all other than the two principles, but if we are heading towards a World -Army in concept, then we are looking at assimilation of many working foreign organizations, that over night S.H.I.E.L.D. might just have to assimilate 10,000 Frenchmen as some spy organization from perhaps France folds under S.H.I.E.L.D's Umbrella as they inherit those resources and man power on all tiers of the Shield hierarchy.

It's more than possible that eventually someone is going to join S.H.I.E.L.D. who outranks Fury, or will only join if Fury is subordinate to him or her and politically Fury has to comply.
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Old February 13 2014, 05:40 AM   #3042
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Well, given the logistics of "Operation Overkill". I would place The Hub somewhere in Eastern Europe.

The Sandbox is in Africa.

The Fridge was said to be a six hour northerly flight from Utah, which had me thinking Canada, but Coulson's remark about Blonsky's cryo-tube being in Barrow, Alaska, has me thinking that THAT might be the Fridge.

The Sci-Ops Academy was definitely in the USA.

The Slingshot, if in the USA and not Mexico, would probably be in the deserts of California, Arizona or Nevada (Area 51?)

The Triskelion, is obviously in Virginia.
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Old February 13 2014, 10:20 AM   #3043
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Question for the railfans among us more knowledgeable than I at these things: can you recognize what sort of consist used to masquerade as Rotalia Italia Numero...?

(Guessing that the actual Italian participants in Eurail, Trenitalia, would've asked too much to allow their trademarks to be used here.)
The train looked american to me. The engine shown seemed to be of this type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_F7 , which to my eyes looks very "american".
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I remember reading in Trains Magazine a year or two back about a specialty company that rented out train consists to film companies. Wishing I could remember the name of the company...
I'm just catching up with the thread again, and this discussion caught my eye.

The location where this was filmed is a 10-mile long privately owned railroad called the Fillmore & Western Railway that runs between Fillmore and Santa Paula, CA (West of Magic Mountain), where they have several vintage locomotives used for various Hollywood productions, including the train crashing down the street in Inception. They also do murder mystery dinner theater, events, and historical trips.

http://www.seeing-stars.com/location...ughItaly.shtml
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Old February 13 2014, 01:08 PM   #3044
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OMG, I didn't even know that was Jim Carey until my wife told me. lol.
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Anyway...guessing we add Italy to the list of nations participating in SHIELD for Cinema'Verse purposes?
Yeah, but not Malta, interestingly enough.
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