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Old February 12 2014, 10:11 AM   #61
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Re: Was NCC-1701 active for 40 years?

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^The Galaxy class is supposed to have an operational lifetime of 100 years. The Enterprise-D lasted for a whopping 7, just so Brannon could get his jollies seeing the saucer crash on a planet.
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^The Galaxy class is supposed to have an operational lifetime of 100 years. The Enterprise-D lasted for a whopping 7, just so Brannon could get his jollies seeing the saucer crash on a planet.
Don't put it all on Brannon. Ron Moore (stupidly) thought it would be a good idea too.

And yeah, I hated that decision also, but it was easily fixed. The Enterprise-E could have been another Galaxy class ship, just like, when Kirk lost his first one, they gave him an identical replacement. The same could have happened to Picard. That way, Moore and Braga could have had their jollies, and we could continue to have the best starship design Star Trek ever had. It would have been cheaper to the production too. All the modelmakers would have had to do was slap an "E" sticker over the "D".

But no, instead we're stuck with the ugliest starship ever put out.

Whatever.
They could have had their cake and eat it, too.

Just script the battle a little differently. The saucer separates, during the battle, while the battlesection tries to draw the attention of the BoP instead of popping like a balloon like it did.
It goes to town on the Klingons and destroys them successfully, though a last stray torpedo hits the saucer and causes it to crashland like we've seen, while the battle section remains heavily damaged in orbit.

At the end we see the saucer salvaged and lifted back into orbit and towed by the relief ships.

In the new movie we see a spanking new Ent-D refitted extensively like the 1701 to bring the model up to the movie quality and tweaked design elements like hull details, nacelle shape, etc but keep the frame.
Oooooh, now I wish they had used the Galaxy-X modifications (third nacelle, anyone?) from AGT for ST XIII - the outcry that would have caused... priceless.
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Old February 18 2014, 03:22 PM   #62
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Re: Was NCC-1701 active for 40 years?

Generations was a mess of plotholes- everything from "Why aren't Lursa and B'eTor dead yet" all the way up to the end of the film and it's shameless "fire when cloaked" ripoff from Star Trek VI. You would have thought that, given the amount of damage the OLD Enterprise was able to take (unshielded) from Warbird shots, the D would be made of sterner stuff.

You know, the one thing that gets me- they could have had the big climactic battle scene with the Enterprise D being blown to bits...

AND saved it at the same time.

AND saved his family that burned to death.

AND kept Kirk from dying.

All he had to do was just exit the Nexus at literally ANY point before the fire killed his extended family, and as soon as they find Soran, just punch him in the face and throw him in the brig.

Instead he picked what was quite possible the worst moment -period- to exit the Nexus.

TNG is my favorite Trek, but sometimes the obvious plotholes make me scratch my head.
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Old March 1 2014, 12:25 PM   #63
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Re: Was NCC-1701 active for 40 years?

My 2 quatloos:

Kirk single-handedly saved the Earth from the Whale Probe. Picard did nothing comparable to "earn" a new Galaxy-class Enterprise.

I dont like the E-E, for the same reason I don't like the E-A: ther weren't in good movies.
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