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Old December 7 2013, 08:07 AM   #1
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AMT Galileo Kit

Hi,

I have started building up the re-issued AMT Galileo from the early '90s.

I am scratch building some of the interior parts such as the overhead lightbox and and using 3ds Max to build parts for 3d printing for the exterior 'curls' that will go on top of the shuttle, the computer consoles, retractable display arms, equipment packages, the under-wing nacelle braces, the rear maintenance panel, and a new rear landing gear.

You can partially see some of the panels and the door I have cut into the rear bulkhead in the following picture. I have been using a combination of blueprint and screen cap resources to build the parts and decals.



I have added the grill spacer and forward section behind the bussard collectors on the nacelles. I will be using the extra control reactor parts from the NX-01 refit kit(exterior parts) on the interior of the nacelles and will also be adding the 'Production' intercoolers from the TOS 1:1000 Enterprise kit on the exterior of the nacelles.

This is the very early beginnings of a custom decal sheet for the kit made in Adobe Illustrator, with the computer panels and interior / exterior markings for the shuttle which I am either going to name as the Feynman or more probably the Pausch. I am also going to be adding some 'real world' markings such as a 'Ground Point' and and "Emergency Exit - Explosive Panel' markings as seen on military aircraft. Maybe some No Step markings too. I will be making the yellow band around the interior of the door 'Caution Striped'. The step area of the door is supposed to look like diamond plate steel.



I need some of your collective Trekbrain expertise, I understand that the Galileo is #7 and apparently the Columbus is #2, what would be a good number to use for the Pausch ?

I will post some renderings of the 3d parts when they are a bit more finished. One thing I am debating as I don't think I want to do a full accuratizing of the rear section, but I may at least model the upper impulse grill to replace that section on the kit.

I am also debating on making an accurate control console to replace the one from the kit which I have added the clear navigator disc. I would then need to redo the three console decals to fit the more correct console design.


Thanks for looking,


Jeff
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Old December 7 2013, 05:06 PM   #2
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Well, any other number besides 2 or 7!
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Old December 7 2013, 07:04 PM   #3
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I like to believe that there were four of these type of shuttlecraft, officially designated by their numbers 1-3-5-7 and named Columbus, Copernicus, Galileo and ??? ???.

I also have that same AMT kit. I was always baffled by that kit. As I understand it, AMT (a model kit company) paid for the full-size TOS shuttle mockup in exchange for the ST model kit rights.

Then when AMT does the kit of the shuttlecraft, they do such a poor job of replicating the actual item they paid for in the series! The AMT lines and contours are REALLY off from the real article.
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Old December 7 2013, 10:21 PM   #4
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Re: AMT Galileo Kit

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I like to believe that there were four of these type of shuttlecraft, officially designated by their numbers 1-3-5-7 and named Columbus, Copernicus, Galileo and ??? ???.

I also have that same AMT kit. I was always baffled by that kit. As I understand it, AMT (a model kit company) paid for the full-size TOS shuttle mockup in exchange for the ST model kit rights.

Then when AMT does the kit of the shuttlecraft, they do such a poor job of replicating the actual item they paid for in the series! The AMT lines and contours are REALLY off from the real article.
Yes, that is always been a mystery to me. They got the Klingon Battlecruiser so right and the shuttlecraft so wrong.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:15 PM   #5
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Re: AMT Galileo Kit

Well for me the nice thing is we can all go see the real thing and make our own models from there due to the fact that the original full size Galileo has been found and is restored and on display in Houston TX.

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Old December 8 2013, 05:49 AM   #6
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And there's always the upcoming from-scratch 1:32 model from Round 2 .
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Old December 8 2013, 05:51 AM   #7
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And there's always the upcoming from-scratch 1:32 model from Round 2 .
Yes! After seeing the fantastic job Round2 and Gary Kerr did on the 1/350 TOS E kit I am so looking forward to their shuttlecraft model.
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Old February 8 2014, 06:49 PM   #8
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I haven't had much time to work on this lately, but did fire off a test spin of the parts I have in progress so far and this is it.

I have decided to start model something new for inside the nacelles, as the 1:1000 parts didn't seem large enough for the kit. I also think I am going to model a whole new control console that is more accurate than the one provided in the kit.

Here is the low res video on youtube.

http://youtu.be/UAN2YE9UG2E

Has anyone heard anything new about the PolarLights/R2 Galileo kit ?

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Old June 9 2014, 08:07 PM   #9
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Haven't had much time for this, but I did start working on the engine grille.

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Old June 10 2014, 05:47 PM   #10
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Latest word on the Polar Lights/Round 2 design is "We're working on it!"

The big problem they're running into is that the interior and exterior dimensions of the sets are nowhere near close. The actual shuttle is, according to the reports I've seen, usually described as between 22-24 feet long. To get the interior set into that shape, though, would require them to make it well over 30 feet long. Fans want an accurate outline in scale with a to scale interior, and well, you can't get there from here. So, the guys at Polar/Round 2 are bashing their brains out on their desks trying to come up with a reasonable compromise that will make the most people happy.

By the way, this is a common problem in filmmaking, in fact it happens more often than not. One of the few cases where the interior actually fit the vehicle was Airwolf, but that's because Bell had an old cockpit mockup they let them build the interior in.
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Old June 10 2014, 07:55 PM   #11
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I like to believe that there were four of these type of shuttlecraft, officially designated by their numbers 1-3-5-7 and named Columbus, Copernicus, Galileo and ??? ???.

I also have that same AMT kit. I was always baffled by that kit. As I understand it, AMT (a model kit company) paid for the full-size TOS shuttle mockup in exchange for the ST model kit rights.

Then when AMT does the kit of the shuttlecraft, they do such a poor job of replicating the actual item they paid for in the series! The AMT lines and contours are REALLY off from the real article.
Yes, that is always been a mystery to me. They got the Klingon Battlecruiser so right and the shuttlecraft so wrong.
The Romulan BOP was pretty far off too.
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Old June 11 2014, 05:37 AM   #12
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Warped9 wrote: View Post
Yes, that is always been a mystery to me. They got the Klingon Battlecruiser so right and the shuttlecraft so wrong.
My understanding is that AMT also built the Klingon Battlecruiser. But, Wah Chang built the Romulan BoP, and the original model was already gone by the time they were making the model kits.

The inaccuracies of the Enterprise were from it being based on earlier MJ drawings.

I think the compromises with the shapes on the shuttle were done knowingly in order to keep the kit manufacturing costs down. Making an accurate one would require several more parts, I bet a whole new set of tooling, adding significant up-front cost.

I don't have any idea about why the K-7 station was so far off.

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Old June 11 2014, 05:56 AM   #13
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Re: AMT Galileo Kit

Here's the thread on this subject over at HobbyTalk. Nothing new since April.

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The big problem they're running into is that the interior and exterior dimensions of the sets are nowhere near close. . . <snip>

By the way, this is a common problem in filmmaking, in fact it happens more often than not. One of the few cases where the interior actually fit the vehicle was Airwolf, but that's because Bell had an old cockpit mockup they let them build the interior in.
Another example of the interior not having to be "fudged" is the submarine Proteus from Fantastic Voyage. Because so much of the inside could be seen through the huge window bay, the studio mockup had a complete interior built inside it. The mockup had several removeable "wild" sections to allow for filming from different angles.
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Old June 11 2014, 12:56 PM   #14
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Gary Kerr has finished designing the model kit. The plans are done. The ball is in Polar Lights' court now. Jamie Hood at PL says he's occupied with other things at the moment, like getting the Lindberg kit line organized, but don't worry, he'll get to the shuttle.
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