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Old November 20 2013, 07:41 PM   #991
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Re: Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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Select shots of the ship which couldn't be found have been replaced with CGI.
There is one shot of the Enterprise in "Encounter at Farpoint" where we see the Enterprise delivers an energy beam onto Farpoint station that reveals the squidy space creature. That shot of the Enterprise is not only new, but the beam itself now emits from the actual phaser array instead of the Captain's Yacht (Center of the saucer section). So it's both a redo and a fix.

What makes this change a bit sad is that after using the same CGI shot of the Enterprise for "Code of Honor", the restoration team actually found the footage for the model shots of the Enterprise from that angle, so every episode after "Code of Honor" now features the real model shot instead of the CGI shot.
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Old November 20 2013, 08:01 PM   #992
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Encounter at Farpoint had three missing shots that were replaced with CGI - two of which were found and used in later episodes.

1 - side view of Enterprise at warp - found
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_193.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...001_hd_355.jpg

2 - saucer separation from underside - not found
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_197.jpg

3 - ship from below, shooting energy beam - found
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_863.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...rap_hd_224.jpg
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Old November 23 2013, 09:10 AM   #993
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That shot was already found in time for "Heart of glory":

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...ory_hd_414.jpg
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Old November 23 2013, 10:05 AM   #994
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It's too bad that past episodes are unlikely to be redone. I was sure that when work on S3 was being done that they would get around to restoring the opening shot of "Sins of the Father", since they had found the original shot of the Enterprise during the first season. Instead, it's the same CGI effect as seen in the sampler, the only thing they redid was the credits.
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Old February 5 2014, 12:22 AM   #995
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A little off topic, but X-Files is now available in HD - at least from some TV stations (like one here in Germany).

For TATV the HD transfer used this area of the TNG film frame:


And it seems, for the HD transfer of the X-Files they chose exactly that area for the complete transfer from 4:3 to 16:9:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58612
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Old February 5 2014, 04:31 AM   #996
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Jeyl wrote: View Post
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Select shots of the ship which couldn't be found have been replaced with CGI.
There is one shot of the Enterprise in "Encounter at Farpoint" where we see the Enterprise delivers an energy beam onto Farpoint station that reveals the squidy space creature. That shot of the Enterprise is not only new, but the beam itself now emits from the actual phaser array instead of the Captain's Yacht (Center of the saucer section). So it's both a redo and a fix.
But in fixing the shot, they made a new error by -- for some reason -- erasing all the windows on the saucer rim.
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Select shots of the ship which couldn't be found have been replaced with CGI. All visual F/X like phaser, transporters, etc have been recreated using CGI since all the original F/X were created in SD only.
Weren't the transporter sparkles a practical effect? I thought they used the original film elements.
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Old February 5 2014, 05:25 AM   #997
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But in fixing the shot, they made a new error by -- for some reason -- erasing all the windows on the saucer rim.
That's only one of the problems. Honestly, the whole shot looks pretty dodgy. It looks like a photoshop comp made up of all different sources, and not quite finished either.
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Old February 5 2014, 04:06 PM   #998
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A little off topic, but X-Files is now available in HD - at least from some TV stations (like one here in Germany).

For TATV the HD transfer used this area of the TNG film frame:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...gapertures.jpg

And it seems, for the HD transfer of the X-Files they chose exactly that area for the complete transfer from 4:3 to 16:9:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58612
http://i.imgur.com/m0VzWON.jpg
According to Ex Astris Scientia TATV was only 1.68:1 and then stretched to 1.78:1. I wonder it they did something similar with X-Files or just cropped to 1.78:1
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Old February 6 2014, 12:16 AM   #999
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Re: Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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A little off topic, but X-Files is now available in HD - at least from some TV stations (like one here in Germany).

For TATV the HD transfer used this area of the TNG film frame:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...gapertures.jpg

And it seems, for the HD transfer of the X-Files they chose exactly that area for the complete transfer from 4:3 to 16:9:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58612
http://i.imgur.com/m0VzWON.jpg
According to Ex Astris Scientia TATV was only 1.68:1 and then stretched to 1.78:1. I wonder it they did something similar with X-Files or just cropped to 1.78:1
No, there's no stretching or geometric distortion on HD X-Files. The negative really is cropped to 1.78:1.
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Old April 3 2014, 09:15 PM   #1000
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Just chiming in here. Rewatched the Re energizing documentary from the first disc. It just struck me again how amazing this project is. We are really lucky as Trek fans.
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Old April 4 2014, 04:01 PM   #1001
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I know. The level of remastering is pretty unprecedented for any TV show, let alone Star Trek.
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Old April 5 2014, 05:44 PM   #1002
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One thing occurred to me..of all the people who made early STNG what it was, why was Tracy Torme not interviewed?
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Old April 6 2014, 05:25 AM   #1003
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I'd assume he turned them down? I can't imagine them not at least approaching him about it.
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Old April 6 2014, 02:13 PM   #1004
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I'd assume he turned them down? I can't imagine them not at least approaching him about it.

I asked Robert Meyer Burnett, and he usually answers me, but not a word from him. Perhaps Torme was still unhappy after all these years.
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Old April 10 2014, 12:02 AM   #1005
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I'd assume he turned them down? I can't imagine them not at least approaching him about it.

I asked Robert Meyer Burnett, and he usually answers me, but not a word from him. Perhaps Torme was still unhappy after all these years.
That's my guess. It's been acknowledged that some of the staff was not interested in doing interviews because of bitter feelings they still carry over what happened behind the scenes, and Torme is just one of them. It's really too bad we couldn't get more of the staff from the earlier seasons, as they are an important part of TNG's beginnings. Fontana and Gerrold were game to get in interviews, but they're not as special because they have a history with Trek beyond TNG, whereas folks like Torme and Maurice Hurley were unique to that specific time in TNG.
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