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Old February 4 2014, 11:44 PM   #136
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The Passion of Christ was a very anti-Semitic film and took a lot of historical liberties in portraying Jesus death - hence offensive.
How well documented is Jesus' death really?
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Old February 4 2014, 11:49 PM   #137
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The Passion of Christ was a very anti-Semitic film and took a lot of historical liberties in portraying Jesus death - hence offensive.
How well documented is Jesus' death really?
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Old February 4 2014, 11:50 PM   #138
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The Wicker Man remake. No, not because it was a bad remake of a classic (which I've never seen), but because of the horrible view of women and the way it strung the audience along until the final scene of Nick Cage being tortured and killed. It's basically a snuff film for misogynists with a victim complex.

Only movie I ever walked out of furious.
The only way it was going to work in an American context is if it was about a community of women who use and destroy men like female bees use male bees ('the drone must die!). There was no way it was going to be about a English Lord and the community he leads staging this festival, since that was already done (remakes usually change something from the original plot to make it fresh the second time around.) The same would probably happen with a remake (more like adaptation, since both the 1973 and 2006 movies are based on a novel called Ritual) from Bollywood or from some other country as well.

A movie I've found to be offensive to me-and I'm not usually offended by movies-is The 40-Year Old Virgin, for suggesting that the main character is one simply because he collects comic books and action figures. At first I was indifferent to the movie and was blasé about seeing it, but after seeing a still of Andy Stitzer (Steve Carell) on his bead reading a comic book, my indifference turned to revulsion; the movie simply states he's like this without examining other possible factors, like being a man going his own way, or a person who feels unable to marry because he has an autism spectrum disorder like Asperger's syndrome. What's more, the Carell character has to sell his stuff when he gets married, but the girlfriend character Trish Piedmont (Catherine Keener) probably doesn't have to sell hers. Put simply, I don't like people telling me my life or hobbies are linked to my virginity or reason(s) that I'm not married.
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Old February 5 2014, 12:03 AM   #139
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On a more realistic note...Napolean Dynamite. UGH. That character reminded me of a kid I knew in school & stayed friends with for years after. When I mentioned it on FB to a brother & sister I went to school with, they both agreed with me. I've noticed that the people who really loved that movie...are the ones who never had to live it, & those who either lived that or knew people that did found it horrible.
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Old February 5 2014, 12:47 AM   #140
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Pan's Labyrinth. The movie just has one of the ugliest endings ever.
Yep, same here, although I was pissed off at the entire movie and couldn't believe I had sat through it. The whole time, I felt like it was unnecessarily cruel towards the girl. The war going around her, her uncle, and if that isn't enough, the faun being nasty to her in her fantasy, all just bad thing after bad thing happening to her with no sense of happiness or closure for her. And not to mention the visceral gore. It was just too much and of course the ending didn't help much, and I left the theater feeling rather numb. Was my worst moving viewing experience.
Just as bad was Welcome To The Dollhouse where the main character Dawn Wiener (Heather Matarazzo) is treated like shit by everybody in town and in her school-not even at the end of the movie does she get any peace. And then in the sort-of sequel Palindromes we find out that



Great movie? Great bullying porn is more like it. And the greatest (backhanded) compliment I can pay to it is that it's the perfect anti-bullying film.
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Old February 5 2014, 02:02 AM   #141
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120 Days Of Sodom.
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Old February 5 2014, 06:29 PM   #142
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The Human Centipede.

That's all.
What a horror. As I recall, the late Roger Ebert would not review it, saying "I can't give a review because this is not a film or motion picture. I don't know what it is"
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Old February 5 2014, 08:15 PM   #143
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The Human Centipede.

That's all.
What a horror. As I recall, the late Roger Ebert would not review it, saying "I can't give a review because this is not a film or motion picture. I don't know what it is"
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Old February 5 2014, 09:22 PM   #144
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How well documented is Jesus' death really?
Surprisingly there is quite a bit outside of the new testament of course. But Mel Gibson's re-creation was offensive because if you see the film it almost exclusively blames Jews for Jesus execution to the point of being anti-Semetic. When add in his behavior on several occassions and anti-Semetic drunken statements I think at least IMO the Passion of Christ was more so a Passion of Mel's against Jews.

Lucian of Samosata was a second century Greek satirist
The Christians . . . worship a man to this day--the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. . . . [It] was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws.
Jesus in the Babylonian Talmud

On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy."
Josephus, a first century Jewish historian

About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he . . . wrought surprising feats. . . . He was the Christ. When Pilate . . .condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared . . . restored to life. . . . And the tribe of Christians . . . has . . . not disappeared.
Reporting on Emperor Nero's decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed Rome in A.D. 64, the Roman historian Tacitus wrote:

Nero fastened the guilt . . . on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of . . . Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome. . . .
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Old February 5 2014, 09:22 PM   #145
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I considered 2012 an insult to my intelligence.
I actually felt angry when it was over, not only was the movie so stupid, it left me feeling like the film makers thought I was stupid for going along with it for 2 hours.
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Old February 5 2014, 11:54 PM   #146
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If you want to see a movie about Jesus's last days that's based on the bible, don't watch Passion of the Christ, watch The Gospel Of St Matthew.

The South Park episode claimed (In their 'We're telling you something totally true now' voice) Passion was based on a Spanish play written during the Inquisition, and the Bible didn't go into such detail about the crucifixion. Don't know how credible that can be taken to be, but the film certainly fills in the informational gaps in the Bible with Mel's big ol' imagination.

The films that offend me the most are films that speak to the audience in the language of being open minded and progressive but at their heart are super-conservative. Films like Friends With Kids where characters try to have a non-traditional family and just realize they need to behave more traditionally at the end, not because they're forced to, but because human nature compels them to.

Also there's tons of cases in films where women have to prove they're not shallow by dating a man who isn't physically attractive, but nearly zero cases where men have to prove the same thing. Women in a lot of films basically exist as a reward for the most virtuous male.
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Old February 6 2014, 12:15 AM   #147
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Movies based on Nicholas Sparks books.
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Old February 7 2014, 05:37 AM   #148
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Pointless sequels and reboots irk me a lot, particularly when they're not really needed or desirable- of course I suppose that that's sort of subjective though I bet that we could agree on a few reboots or sequels that maybe shouldn't have ever been greenlit. Of course, some franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek had good sequels that kept things going but things like Disney going on a massive direct-to-DVD sequels to classic movies binge in the late 90's early 00's tarnished a lot of the classics and I'd actually rather pretend that most of them never existed. It seems like there is a disturbing lack of originality in Hollywood sometimes.
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Old February 9 2014, 09:23 PM   #149
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Movies which "offend" me are movies which insult my intelligence, or otherwise seem to show contempt for their audience. Horror movies tend to get a pass from me more often than the other genres, but...

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The Human Centipede.
...is a good example. One of many.
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I have a certain curiosity about films like Human Centipede and A Serbian Film. I wonder if they would be too much even for me, but I'm still a bit apprehensive.
Once you get over the shock of the idea, which is roughly 10 minutes in it becomes a boring movie full of muffled crying.

I advise going in with alcohol, some good friends and the desire to mock it. Because I really can't tell if the movie is taking itself too seriously or it a parody of movies that do that.

Personally I'm offended by the RoboCop remake existing.
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