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Old February 2 2014, 01:23 AM   #1876
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Dirk Benedict had nicer hair.
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Old February 2 2014, 01:23 AM   #1877
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I don't get the Cranston thing. Just because a guy can act and is willing to shave his head, it does not necessarily follow that he would be a good Lex Luthor.

If that's the only qualifier, how about Patrick Stewart?
Cranston is capable of doing vicious and intelligent very well and that would be perfect for Luthor. He's also the perfect age for the character. Patrick Stewart is too Shakespearean for the part. The problem we have with Eisenberg is that we're afraid he's going to portray a young, hip, cruel, and geeky Lex rather than an older, reserved, and brutal Luthor.



Ask yourself who would be better for a live action version of that scene. Bryan Cranston or Jesse Eisenberg?
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Good scene, never really seen that series, probably should check it out, but that office is just nuts!
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Old February 2 2014, 03:16 AM   #1878
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I certainly loved the JLU Lex... but frankly Clancy Brown already played that version of the character so damn well I'm not sure I would want to see anyone else try. Same goes with Hackman and his comical, wisecracking Lex.

I'd much rather see a new actor with a new interpretation.
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Old February 2 2014, 06:25 PM   #1879
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I doubt many people would have been clamoring for Bryan Cranston if he'd never shaved his head for Breaking Bad.
This is because many people just want someone who looks like the character, acting prowess be damned. (See: Everyone who complained about Hugh Jackman's casting as Wolverine, instead crying for Glenn fucking Danzig.)

Anyway, Mark Zuckerberg as Lex Luthor is pretty nifty. I'm hit and miss on Snyder as a director (love Watchmen and Dawn of the Dead, I thought Man of Steel was very well directed but needed a better script, couldn't get into 300 and Sucker Punch is just appalling), but with very few exceptions -- Malin Åkerman was atrocious in Watchmen, and honestly Cavill has a disturbing lack of charisma -- Snyder's casting is generally spot-on. At the very least, he's very good at picking actors who match his vision for the character.
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Old February 2 2014, 06:44 PM   #1880
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(See: Everyone who complained about Hugh Jackman's casting as Wolverine, instead crying for Glenn fucking Danzig.)
I don't know who Danzig is, but I often thought Michael Hurst (Iolaus from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, and one of New Zealand's most acclaimed actors) could've made an impressive -- and more authentically sized -- Wolverine.


Anyway, Mark Zuckerberg as Lex Luthor is pretty nifty.
We don't know that's what they're going for. The same actor does not equate to the same character.


and honestly Cavill has a disturbing lack of charisma
For me, Cavill's charisma was the only thing that made this version of Superman work. I really believed he was Superman, and it was entirely due to the performance, not the misguided script that didn't let him be a hero.
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Old February 2 2014, 07:14 PM   #1881
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I doubt many people would have been clamoring for Bryan Cranston if he'd never shaved his head for Breaking Bad.
For me, it's not the shaving of the head, it's that he's a really good actor with a tremendous range.

Something, honestly, I have yet to see from Eisenberg.
There are a lot of really good actors with tremendous range. Not many of them have recently starred in a critically acclaimed show playing a morally ambiguous character with their head shaved.
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Old February 2 2014, 07:48 PM   #1882
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It does seem sometimes that the internet tends to fixate on superficial physical details that are easily addressed by hair, makeup, etc.

If the original comic-book character is usually drawn with red hair and a mustache, fans immediately zero in on the most famous actor with red hair and a mustache, to the exclusion of other, equally suitable actors. Ditto for height, nationality, etc.

The whole acting/artiface thing tends to get lost in the shuffle.
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Old February 2 2014, 08:04 PM   #1883
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The opposite also happens. Sometimes they cast someone who isn't appropriate for the part just because they're a big name.
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Old February 2 2014, 08:11 PM   #1884
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If the original comic-book character is usually drawn with red hair and a mustache, fans immediately zero in on the most famous actor with red hair and a mustache, to the exclusion of other, equally suitable actors. Ditto for height, nationality, etc.
Although sometimes it works out perfectly. Probably everyone who was a fan of both ST:TNG and the X-Men pegged Patrick Stewart as the ideal Professor X ages before it actually happened. A college friend and I had that conversation sometime around 1989, I think.

(Although Xavier's look was actually modeled on Yul Brynner.)
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Old February 2 2014, 10:44 PM   #1885
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The opposite also happens. Sometimes they cast someone who isn't appropriate for the part just because they're a big name.
Depend of which "they" you're talking about. The internet often gets hung up on superficial physical characteristics. The studios may want a big name.

Ideally, the director wants somebody who will do a great job, which often means thinking outside the box.
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Old February 2 2014, 10:47 PM   #1886
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I doubt many people would have been clamoring for Bryan Cranston if he'd never shaved his head for Breaking Bad.
For me, it's not the shaving of the head, it's that he's a really good actor with a tremendous range.

Something, honestly, I have yet to see from Eisenberg.
There are a lot of really good actors with tremendous range. Not many of them have recently starred in a critically acclaimed show playing a morally ambiguous character with their head shaved.
People would've flipped out if "the dad from Malcolm in the Middle" was cast as Lex Luthor in Superman Returns.

Damnit! Out of My Vulcan Mind already said that!!!
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Old February 2 2014, 10:49 PM   #1887
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People would've flipped out if "the dad from Malcolm in the Middle" was cast as Lex Luthor in Superman Returns.
They just cast him as a murderous drug dealer instead!
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Old February 2 2014, 11:17 PM   #1888
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People would've flipped out if "the dad from Malcolm in the Middle" was cast as Lex Luthor in Superman Returns.
They just cast him as a murderous drug dealer instead!
Even that probably wouldn't have worked if Season Five Walter was in the first episode of Season One. Part of what makes Walter work is the deliberate story arc of taking an ordinary, reasonably nice guy (basically a less funny version of Malcolm's dad) and turning him into "the murderous drug dealer".
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Old February 3 2014, 01:28 AM   #1889
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This discussion reminded me of when my girlfriend took me to see this film called Die Hard. I was in line for the film making fun of the guy from Moonlighting trying to become an action movie hero.
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Old February 3 2014, 02:49 AM   #1890
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(Although Xavier's look was actually modeled on Yul Brynner.)
He might have been difficult to get.
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