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Old January 27 2014, 04:07 AM   #256
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^My wife thought the same thing, and I suggested maybe the bear was just getting annoyed at having to do the same thing over and over.

And I'm extremely pissed that during the sexiest shot of Kari of the evening, they splashed "NEW MYTHBUSTERS NEXT WEEK!!" right over her face!
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Old January 27 2014, 04:12 AM   #257
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Oh - working with bears... I saw a news item maybe a year ago. There was... I'm remembering a private zoo, I think... they had a grizzly they'd let you pose with and take pictures. The video showed the bear standing up on his hind legs, and the guest standing right next to it for a nice two-shot portrait. In the middle of this, the bear very casually looks at the guy, then very casually leans over and rips his throat out.

I seem to recall the keeper using a combination of pepper spray and frantic beating with a club to get the bear off the guy.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:05 PM   #258
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Seemingly, Kari can deal with snakes, going so far as to have a python (boa, whatever) draped over her shoulders (Woof!) with little to no aversion.

But I am confused. One of the snakes Kari placed into the "temple" set she identified as a poisonous variety. I don't know "jack" about snakes. I don't recall the species she named and I wouldn't be able to tell if that was really that particular variety. Surely they would not have placed a truly deadly species in there with Tory and surely Kari would not have handled a really dangerous species. Was she just trying to freak out Tory?

It's also a bit weird Kari got saddled with the lion feces. She so easily grossed out by things like the pork flesh they occasionally use; I'd think she's be near the point of gagging.

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Old January 27 2014, 10:11 PM   #259
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I'm guess any of the poisonous snake were defanged?
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Old January 27 2014, 10:14 PM   #260
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It's also a bit weird Kari got saddled with the lion feces. She so easily grossed out by things like the pork flesh they occasionally use; I'd think she's be near the point of gagging.
She's a vegetarian. It's dead animals specifically that she has a problem with.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:20 PM   #261
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Well you can't get much deader than being reduced to feces by a carnivore.

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Old January 27 2014, 10:42 PM   #262
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Seemingly, Kari can deal with snakes, going so far as to have a python (boa, whatever) draped over her shoulders (Woof!) with little to no aversion.

But I am confused. One of the snakes Kari placed into the "temple" set she identified as a poisonous variety. I don't know "jack" about snakes. I don't recall the species she named and I wouldn't be able to tell if that was really that particular variety. Surely they would not have placed a truly deadly species in there with Tory and surely Kari would not have handled a really dangerous species. Was she just trying to freak out Tory?

It's also a bit weird Kari got saddled with the lion feces. She so easily grossed out by things like the pork flesh they occasionally use; I'd think she's be near the point of gagging.

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The poisonous snake could have been "milked" to have the bulk of it's deadly poisons removed so as that it didn't present a real danger. (Or maybe had anti-venoms at the ready.)
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Old January 27 2014, 10:53 PM   #263
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I still wouldn't chance it, even if it meant possibly breaking my "contract" with the production.

Yeah, I know, they take risks all the time. Why should this be any worse? Just my own (debatably) "irrational" fears. No, I don't "hate" snakes. I just have a very, VERY cautious "respect" for them. One time as I headed out the door, I nearly stepped onto a snake which I hoped was just an "oak" variety rather than the rattler it closely resembles. It slithered away too fast for me to get a good look of its tail. I never suspected I could perform a standing jump...three feet backwards!

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Old February 2 2014, 03:10 AM   #264
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Tonight's theme: "Do Try This at Home?" Myths that may or may not be safe enough to try at home for a change.

Microwaved water: Well, it was obvious right off the bat that water boiled in the microwave would not be toxic to plants. The idea is completely idiotic. Microwaved water is just hot water, period. But what's surprising is that the plants watered with the previously-microwaved water grew better. You'd probably have to repeat the test to confirm it wasn't a fluke, but I wonder why it could enhance plant growth. Could the microwaves have killed microbes that stovetop boiling didn't? That seems unlikely. It's probably just a fluke.

The fact that this myth took 2 weeks to test got me thinking. I've known for years that they must have a bunch of different myths going on at once, in different stages of readiness or progress. So I'd love to see an episode that shows us "a day in the life" for the Mythbusters, or maybe a week -- however long it takes to show the process of them dealing with the various myths they have going on concurrently. Of course, that would leave the longer myths incomplete, but they could be resolved in later episodes, or maybe there could be flashforwards or something.


Putting out a fire with a speedboat's wake: Okay, this one's obviously too dangerous to try at home -- at least unless you have the cooperation of your local fire department (plus it's a very generous definition of "at home"). I suppose the only reason it's in here is because it's too short a myth to focus half an episode on. So I was able to guess that it would work, since if it didn't work, they would've had to try other things and replicate the results and so forth.


Metronomes: This is a standard physics demonstration to show the concept of resonance, so I knew it would work. The air hockey table is a cool idea, though. Interesting that it didn't work with 216 of them. I guess there was just too much noise in the system -- Adam chalked it up to the loose manufacturing tolerances. But I wonder if maybe the movable surface just absorbed too much of the energy, and 216 metronomes were just too much mass to affect with the available energy. Which makes me wonder if more energy could've helped. They should've tried lifting the weights higher, so that there was a more powerful swing to the metronomes.

Adam was overstating a bit when he said this was their biggest failure ever. I'd say that was the second JATO Rocket Car attempt where the car blew up on the ramp. That was much bigger in scale, personpower, and expense.


Ball chain arc: I've seen this demonstrated online, and the video I saw explained the physics much better than the Mythbusters did, I'm afraid.

"Suspended" water drops: Another thing I've seen before in a viral video, and the video explains it well enough that the mythbusters didn't add anything new.

"Elephant toothpaste"/"Explosive snake": Okay, interesting chemistry demonstrations, but not really myths.


Dry ice bombs: This is a nice idea -- taking something stupidly dangerous that people do try at home, and showing exactly why they shouldn't, as a public service. It showed the danger pretty effectively, I think.
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Old February 2 2014, 04:37 AM   #265
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This really seemed to be more of a "Mini Myth" episode than a "Do Try This At Home" one since half of the stories they told you couldn't do at home. Still an interesting take.

I think you may be on to something, Christopher, that the microwave may have heated and killed microbes in the water beyond what simply boiling water could do. But at the same time, yeah, other tests would need to be done to rule out the microwaved water plant(s) growing better being a fluke. And, yeah, it was one with a result I knew how it would come out. The premise of it seemed built on the idea some still have that microwaves use dangerous forms of radiation to heat things. As I've said before when it comes to any "myth" dealing with microwaves or other forms of EM radiation, humanity is bathed in all sorts of forms of radiation from radio waves, microwaves and all of that and has been for pretty much a century. If it was dangerous (which it can't be since it's non-ionizing. The energy of these forms of radiation being too big to cause damage to cells) we'd been seeing some serious impacts on humanity for quite some time now.

The metronome test was interesting. I think the failure of the large-scale test came from the foam on the air-hockey table. I think it probably gave too many variables for all of the metronomes to balance out. With the foam on the tubes the metronomes only had one axis to balance. (Left/Right, horizontal axis.) But on the hockey table the metronomes had to balance out through pretty much three dimensions. Left/Right, Font/Back and Up/Down (as the foam shifted while floating on the air.) I think it was just more than could be overcome by the devices. Setting up another "one dimensional" system to shift things around may have gotten them better results.

Or if it was a case of the devices being imperfect and out of sync with one another I'd think it'd be fairly easy to get them tuned in to one another by having one or two being your "base" and then introducing the others one at a time and tuning them in to the "controls." Then they'd all be in sync and the large-scale experiment could work.

I disagree with the conclusions on the fire-fighting boat. As the premise itself already has a LOT you have to grant someone. I mean I wouldn't tell Joe Blow to go out there with a regular boat and try this without any boating experience. But someone who *is* a capable boatman with a capable boat this "could" work in emergency situations, where people take risks all of the time to save lives or prevent the spread of a disaster.

I mean, this is like telling someone to not run into a burning building to save a trapped person and to wait for the fire department to get there. Yeah, sure, doing it would be dangerous and the fire department is better trained and equipped to save that person but they might get there too late.

The other "myths" I've not much to say on. Interesting look at some chemical reactions and the testing of pressures with the CO2 "myth." Interesting construction this time of their "human analogue", particularly using someone from BTS rather than either Jamie, Adam or one of the Jr. Team.

I agree, Christopher, that the metronome test wasn't their biggest failure. They've certainly had others where tried as they might they couldn't get things to work. The second JATO test is up there but, to be fair, it was a failure on the part of the makers of the rockets and not so much on Jamie and Adam.
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Old February 2 2014, 04:46 AM   #266
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I disagree with the conclusions on the fire-fighting boat. As the premise itself already has a LOT you have to grant someone. I mean I wouldn't tell Joe Blow to go out there with a regular boat and try this without any boating experience. But someone who *is* a capable boatman with a capable boat this "could" work in emergency situations, where people take risks all of the time to save lives or prevent the spread of a disaster.

I mean, this is like telling someone to not run into a burning building to save a trapped person and to wait for the fire department to get there. Yeah, sure, doing it would be dangerous and the fire department is better trained and equipped to save that person but they might get there too late.
Well, I don't think they were saying "If you happen to come across a fire while you're in your speedboat, don't try to help." After all, that's not a scenario that's very likely to occur. What they were saying was, "Don't go out and set something on fire in order to try to put it out with a speedboat."

Besides, they have lawyers, so they aren't going to verbally encourage people to put themselves in danger.



I agree, Christopher, that the metronome test wasn't their biggest failure. They've certainly had others where tried as they might they couldn't get things to work. The second JATO test is up there but, to be fair, it was a failure on the part of the makers of the rockets and not so much on Jamie and Adam.
Maybe, but Adam concluded that this failure was due to the construction of the metronomes, so it's pretty analogous. He wasn't saying it was his and Jamie's fault that it failed, just that it was a case where they put a ton of effort into something that they couldn't get to work for whatever reason. (Come to think of it, "Breakstep Bridge" would seem to be right up there on their greatest-failures list.)

After all, remember the Mythbuster motto. Failure is always an option. And in science, you can often learn things from failure that you couldn't learn any other way.
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Old February 2 2014, 04:51 AM   #267
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I want to buy one of those ball chains now.

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This really seemed to be more of a "Mini Myth" episode than a "Do Try This At Home" one since half of the stories they told you couldn't do at home. Still an interesting take.
I agree with that. Though I always miss the first couple of minutes because I feel they show too much sometimes so I might have missed the explanation.
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The fact that this myth took 2 weeks to test got me thinking. I've known for years that they must have a bunch of different myths going on at once, in different stages of readiness or progress. So I'd love to see an episode that shows us "a day in the life" for the Mythbusters, or maybe a week -- however long it takes to show the process of them dealing with the various myths they have going on concurrently. Of course, that would leave the longer myths incomplete, but they could be resolved in later episodes, or maybe there could be flashforwards or something.
I just watched one of their early "blooper" episodes on Netflix this evening and had a great time watching it. I'm sure they could something similar with a "Behind the Scenes" special where they show us how they put an episode together. I know I would watch it.
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Old February 3 2014, 02:58 PM   #269
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I agree that the air hockey table test might have worked better if the platform was in rollers (operating on a single directional axis) instead.

As for the jet boat - that's more of a "DO try this in a dire emergency if it just so happens that a boat is on fire and you just so happen to have a jet boat handy, but otherwise what would even be doing this for?"
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^Also if you're a skilled enough boat operator to make what they stressed was a rather dangerous maneuver.
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