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Old January 9 2014, 08:32 PM   #1156
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

While not about Doctor Who, Beatles Examiner has up an article about some of the other things that might have been discovered in Africa, like the Beatles' appearance on "Juke Box Jury."
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Old January 27 2014, 07:15 PM   #1157
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More Marco Polo shenanigans, taken with a hefty pinch of salt: there's someone who's been trying to post (what they claim to be) the first few minutes of Marco Polo on first youtube, and now DailyMotion, all day, and continually having it taken down. Probably just a hoaxer (I understand that Levine is already breaking Twitter in response so if so, he's got what he wanted), but there's an outside chance that it's for real, and it might bounce the BBC into bringing forward an announcement (btw, the 50th anniversary of the first episode going out is 22nd Feb, which is just before the DVD release of Web of Fear, which would be an irresistible chance for two-for-one press coverage) if there is anything to announce.
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Old January 27 2014, 07:53 PM   #1158
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More Marco Polo shenanigans...
I saw this begin to unfold on Twitter last night. It's been one very strange chapter in what's already been a very strange story.

Levine's going off on everything. 2011 for when he first got wind off it. BBC Radio Wiltshire. Phil Morris. The BBC in general.

This is so bonkers it's madder than Mad Jack McMadd.
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Old January 27 2014, 07:58 PM   #1159
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BBC should just either confirm or deny to stop the BS. Instead they're glued to an inflexible PR schedule, at least judging by Fear and Enemy.

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Old January 27 2014, 09:19 PM   #1160
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More Marco Polo shenanigans, taken with a hefty pinch of salt:
And, unsurprisingly, this turned out to be a Rick-Roll.

No, I'm not going to link to where it finally ended up.
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Old January 27 2014, 09:28 PM   #1161
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And Ian Levine is giving the hoaxer exactly the kind of attention he was looking for, in thoroughly NSFW fashion. "All you've done is p*** off fandom - there are some clever fans out there - they'll trace you and teach you to f*** with us" and so forth. The hoaxer's response: "HAAA HAA HAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!" Levine is also retweeting lots of people declaring simultaneously that no one fell for this obvious deception and that the hoaxer is a nasty monster for deceiving them.

Of course it was never likely that recovered episodes would be circulating in a format that could just be uploaded to YouTube or DailyMotion. But then, nothing about the missing episode developments of the past few years has been likely, which is why it was hard to entirely dismiss even something that had "obvious hoax" written all over it.
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Old January 27 2014, 09:32 PM   #1162
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BBC should just either confirm or deny to stop the BS. Instead they're glued to an inflexible PR schedule, at least judging by Fear and Enemy.

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Ian is under the belief Phillip Morris has yet to return anything (potentially nearly everything else) The BBC could confirm that nothing else has been returned, they would not be able to confirm nothing else will be.
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Old January 27 2014, 09:46 PM   #1163
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^ Then BBC and Phil Morris should confirm/deny what they have knowledge of.

Keep in mind, the BBC knew about Fear and Enemy many months before they were released.

I do have to wonder how reputations would fare if anyone was found to be keeping knowledge hidden.

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Old January 27 2014, 10:16 PM   #1164
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^But I think that's what Rarewolf is saying: Some people won't be convinced by a denial, and will just conclude it's a coverup. You can prove that an episode has been recovered by releasing it, but it's a lot harder to prove a negative.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:20 PM   #1165
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The irrational out there will go on believing whatever, but at least the sane amongst us would know. Right now, I don't know what to believe and the people who should know the truth are only making it worse by not saying anything.

Really, it's getting to the point where silence is irresponsible. Maybe that's what "silence will fall" really means?!

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Old January 27 2014, 11:30 PM   #1166
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The irrational out there will go on believing whatever, but at least the sane amongst us would know. Right now, I don't know what to believe and the people who should know the truth are only making it worse by not saying anything.

Really, it's getting to the point where silence is irresponsible. Maybe that's what "silence will fall" really means?!

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What to believe? Believe Web and Enemy were returned and will be released as BBC has informed us.

And then believe that's it, until BBC tells us something more.

Seems simple enough to me. If you choose to believe every crackpot who makes a post or writes an article anywhere across the Internet, how is that BBC's responsibility to keep tabs on, and continue going around behind the rumors making denials?
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Old January 28 2014, 04:33 AM   #1167
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^^My thoughts exactly. As far as I'm concerned, there are no missing episodes out there waiting for a public unveiling and I will continue to believe that until if/when BBC announces another one has been found.

Although, I enjoy visiting this thread all the same. It really is a blast watching fandom writhe on this magnitude over a rumour and Ian Levine's tirades make it all worth while.
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Old January 28 2014, 07:11 AM   #1168
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The irrational out there will go on believing whatever, but at least the sane amongst us would know. Right now, I don't know what to believe and the people who should know the truth are only making it worse by not saying anything.

Really, it's getting to the point where silence is irresponsible. Maybe that's what "silence will fall" really means?!

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What to believe? Believe Web and Enemy were returned and will be released as BBC has informed us.

And then believe that's it, until BBC tells us something more.

Seems simple enough to me. If you choose to believe every crackpot who makes a post or writes an article anywhere across the Internet, how is that BBC's responsibility to keep tabs on, and continue going around behind the rumors making denials?
Obviously, I'm not believing the crackpots. However, it also seems likely that more is going on.

Now, you can live your life with blinders on, but I'm more actively curious than that. I don't think it's too much to ask that those who know to set the record straight.

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Old January 28 2014, 02:57 PM   #1169
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The irrational out there will go on believing whatever, but at least the sane amongst us would know. Right now, I don't know what to believe and the people who should know the truth are only making it worse by not saying anything.

Really, it's getting to the point where silence is irresponsible. Maybe that's what "silence will fall" really means?!

Mr Awe
What to believe? Believe Web and Enemy were returned and will be released as BBC has informed us.

And then believe that's it, until BBC tells us something more.

Seems simple enough to me. If you choose to believe every crackpot who makes a post or writes an article anywhere across the Internet, how is that BBC's responsibility to keep tabs on, and continue going around behind the rumors making denials?
Obviously, I'm not believing the crackpots. However, it also seems likely that more is going on.

Now, you can live your life with blinders on, but I'm more actively curious than that. I don't think it's too much to ask that those who know to set the record straight.

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They've already spoken repeatedly, how many more times should they speak to it? Why do they need to discloses their future business plans before they are ready (If indeed they are waiting for delivery of something?)
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Old January 28 2014, 04:20 PM   #1170
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^ Then BBC and Phil Morris should confirm/deny what they have knowledge of.

Keep in mind, the BBC knew about Fear and Enemy many months before they were released.

I do have to wonder how reputations would fare if anyone was found to be keeping knowledge hidden.

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Yet the BBC flat out lied in June saying they have no missing episodes. They have no credibility in the fans eyes in regards to missing episodes after that incident. They probably have Marco Polo but they will keep denying it until they release it.
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