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View Poll Results: Do you want to see a reboot of TOS for the next show?
Yes, I'd like to see Kirk & Spock (or other next gen crew) again on TV. 17 19.54%
Maybe... it depends on _____. 5 5.75%
No, I'd like to see a new crew. 65 74.71%
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Old January 25 2014, 02:35 PM   #46
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

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No reboot, New crew.
No new crew; reboot.
Oh that is going to be lame pretty soon.
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Old January 25 2014, 08:55 PM   #47
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

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No reboot, New crew.
No new crew; reboot.
Again?
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Old January 25 2014, 11:48 PM   #48
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

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No reboot, New crew.
No new crew; reboot.
Again?
Yep. We've got six hundred plus hours of "new crew" and less than a hundred featuring TOS characters.
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Old January 26 2014, 07:35 AM   #49
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

If, gods forbid, the PTB did decide to reboot, then I would want Nu-NuTOS to be a total reboot, to throw in things and make changes rather than just rehashing the same stuff with different actors.

For example: make Kirk bisexual, turn Pavel Chekov into Pavla Chekova and make her the security chief, have Ilia in from the beginning, do away with the miniskirts or have TNG-style skants for the men (with main male characters wearing them from time to time), make it more of an ensemble series rather than just Kirk/Spock/McCoy, have at least twenty alien races (including humans) represented in all group scenes.
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Old January 26 2014, 07:48 AM   #50
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If, gods forbid, the PTB did decide to reboot, then I would want Nu-NuTOS to be a total reboot, to throw in things and make changes rather than just rehashing the same stuff with different actors.

For example: make Kirk bisexual, turn Pavel Chekov into Pavla Chekova and make her the security chief, have Ilia in from the beginning, do away with the miniskirts or have TNG-style skants for the men (with main male characters wearing them from time to time), make it more of an ensemble series rather than just Kirk/Spock/McCoy, have at least twenty alien races (including humans) represented in all group scenes.
If you're going to change the characters so much you might as well just create new ones.
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Old January 26 2014, 04:46 PM   #51
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

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If, gods forbid, the PTB did decide to reboot, then I would want Nu-NuTOS to be a total reboot, to throw in things and make changes rather than just rehashing the same stuff with different actors.

For example: make Kirk bisexual, turn Pavel Chekov into Pavla Chekova and make her the security chief, have Ilia in from the beginning, do away with the miniskirts or have TNG-style skants for the men (with main male characters wearing them from time to time), make it more of an ensemble series rather than just Kirk/Spock/McCoy, have at least twenty alien races (including humans) represented in all group scenes.
If you're going to change the characters so much you might as well just create new ones.
Exactly.
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Old January 26 2014, 04:53 PM   #52
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No new crew; reboot.
Again?
Yep. We've got six hundred plus hours of "new crew" and less than a hundred featuring TOS characters.
Don't you want something new? How many times can you watch the continuing missions of the starship Enterprise and its brash captain, unemotional commander caught between two worlds, racist country doctor, and the rest? It's been done twice now. I don't want to see it a third time.
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Old January 26 2014, 06:12 PM   #53
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Don't you want something new? How many times can you watch the continuing missions of the starship Enterprise and its brash captain, unemotional commander caught between two worlds, racist country doctor, and the rest? It's been done twice now. I don't want to see it a third time.
Since there has been about 18 hours of material featuring those characters since 1979 (34 years), I'm all for seeing some more. For me, the TOS gang is nowhere near wearing out their welcome.
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Old January 26 2014, 08:46 PM   #54
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

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Don't you want something new? How many times can you watch the continuing missions of the starship Enterprise and its brash captain, unemotional commander caught between two worlds, racist country doctor, and the rest? It's been done twice now. I don't want to see it a third time.
Since there has been about 18 hours of material featuring those characters since 1979 (34 years), I'm all for seeing some more. For me, the TOS gang is nowhere near wearing out their welcome.
Between Trek literature, TOS, TAS and the movies (+ Abrams movies); I have processed every nuance of those characters lives from their Academy days, the lost years, two five year missions to retirement and beyond. I know you are a Kirk and Spock guy at heart but it is a little bit disingenuous to simply count TV hours and pretend like their story has played second fiddle to other crews in the Trek universe.

That being said, I could probably handle another reboot to the TOS crew on TV but I would prefer it to have some connection with the Abrams movies in some way. It would be nice not to have to separate what Trek universe I am watching.
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Old January 26 2014, 10:35 PM   #55
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Don't you want something new?
"Something new" wouldn't be something based on a fifty-year-old television series. If what you want is something new, then turn to something, well... actually new.
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Old January 26 2014, 11:12 PM   #56
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Between Trek literature, TOS, TAS and the movies (+ Abrams movies); I have processed every nuance of those characters lives from their Academy days, the lost years, two five year missions to retirement and beyond. I know you are a Kirk and Spock guy at heart but it is a little bit disingenuous to simply count TV hours and pretend like their story has played second fiddle to other crews in the Trek universe.
To general audiences who don't inhale every single bit of merchandise, Kirk and Spock are the most underutilized elements of the franchise outside of Star Trek: Enterprise, yet are still the most identifiable part of it.

And if we start in 1987 when TNG premiered, there is about ten-hours of material featuring Kirk and Spock. Yet they are still the most identifiable part of the franchise.

At the end of the day, for me, Kirk and Spock are Star Trek. They always have been. I've went down the spin-off road, watched them all. Ultimately, the spin-offs were mostly forgettable.

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Don't you want something new?
"Something new" wouldn't be something based on a fifty-year-old television series. If what you want is something new, then turn to something, well... actually new.
Exactly.
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Old January 26 2014, 11:18 PM   #57
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New old Trek or new new trek - it really doesn't matter. Fans are going to pick it apart anyway.
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Old January 27 2014, 12:41 AM   #58
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Re: TV: A reboot or a new crew?

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Between Trek literature, TOS, TAS and the movies (+ Abrams movies); I have processed every nuance of those characters lives from their Academy days, the lost years, two five year missions to retirement and beyond. I know you are a Kirk and Spock guy at heart but it is a little bit disingenuous to simply count TV hours and pretend like their story has played second fiddle to other crews in the Trek universe.
To general audiences who don't inhale every single bit of merchandise, Kirk and Spock are the most underutilized elements of the franchise outside of Star Trek: Enterprise, yet are still the most identifiable part of it.

And if we start in 1987 when TNG premiered, there is about ten-hours of material featuring Kirk and Spock. Yet they are still the most identifiable part of the franchise.

At the end of the day, for me, Kirk and Spock are Star Trek. They always have been. I've went down the spin-off road, watched them all. Ultimately, the spin-offs were mostly forgettable.

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Don't you want something new?
"Something new" wouldn't be something based on a fifty-year-old television series. If what you want is something new, then turn to something, well... actually new.
Exactly.
Agree with Kelthaz here BillJ but you pretty much made my point for me with the other stuff. Calling TNG "forgettable" is beyond lazy though. Just we need, another guy that gets to tell others what Star Trek "is." Gotta love em.
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Just we need, another guy that gets to tell others what Star Trek "is." Gotta love em.
Somehow you completely missed (intentionally or not, who knows?) the "for me" part of my statement. You also deemed to leave out the "mostly" in my statement about the spin-offs being forgettable.
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Old January 27 2014, 01:58 AM   #60
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Just we need, another guy that gets to tell others what Star Trek "is." Gotta love em.
Somehow you completely missed (intentionally or not, who knows?) the "for me" part of my statement. You also deemed to leave out the "mostly" in my statement about the spin-offs being forgettable.
I actually did miss that first part. My apologies. I've just noticed a tendency with you to try to slam other shows whenever someone criticizes TOS. I don't know why you feel the need to constantly do that. Sorry, I'm more pissy than usual this week. My wife is battling pneumonia and I'm trying to work from home while the kids are driving us up a wall today.
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