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Old January 18 2014, 04:03 AM   #31
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Re: R.I.P. - Russell Johnson, the "Professor" from Gilligan's Island

Another fun fact about this show: Gilligan does have a first name (Willy), although it was only ever revealed in Sherwood Schwartz's original treatment for the show and (unlike Columbo's first name, Frank, which is visible on his police ID) never made it on air.
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Old January 18 2014, 04:14 AM   #32
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You've apparently been misinformed about a few things. According to the pilot's rather dreadful theme song...
Actually, Christopher, I'm not misinformed. I did err in referencing the unaired pilot, but the character descriptions are genuine. They're from the original Gilligan's Island treatment. The characters had changed after this first iteration and were on their second go-around when the pilot was filmed, as you stated above. The characters changed again, iteration three, into how we know them today.

There is a series of shorts called Gilligan's Island: Before the Three Hour Tour which detail the following:

The Professor was originally a writer.
The Howells were not millionaires.
Ginger was a secretary, and Bunny was a store clerk.
Gilligan was a Navy cook who knew nothing about the sea. He lied about his background to get the job aboard the Minnow, as the Skipper's regular first mate had crapped out.
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Old January 18 2014, 04:40 AM   #33
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Yeah, as I understood it "The Professor" was more of a nick-name they gave him since he was so learned but not an actual title he earned (i.e. he wasn't an educator in a college or university) though he did hold degrees and doctorates.
I don't think the Professor's backstory was clearly enough developed to allow any certainty on that point. Certainly in Rescue from Gilligan's Island he was treated as a full professor teaching at a university, although it's possible that could've been an honorary position resulting from his fame as a noted castaway/survivor.
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Old January 18 2014, 06:24 AM   #34
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Yeah, as I understood it "The Professor" was more of a nick-name they gave him since he was so learned but not an actual title he earned (i.e. he wasn't an educator in a college or university) though he did hold degrees and doctorates.
I don't think the Professor's backstory was clearly enough developed to allow any certainty on that point. Certainly in Rescue from Gilligan's Island he was treated as a full professor teaching at a university, although it's possible that could've been an honorary position resulting from his fame as a noted castaway/survivor.
In development the character went from writer, to hign school teacher with professor as a nickname to a full professor in the final production on screen.
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Old January 18 2014, 07:10 AM   #35
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From Episode #1, "Two on a Raft":

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THE FINAL MEMBER OF THE MISSING GROUP WAS PROFESSOR ROY HINKLEY, RESEARCH SCIENTIST AND WELL KNOWN SCOUT MASTER.
I've confirmed that bit of dialog at least, because coincidentally, it aired on MeTV this week on Wednesday, the night before Johnson died! It's sitting right here on my DVR.
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Old January 18 2014, 11:38 AM   #36
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Re: R.I.P. - Russell Johnson, the "Professor" from Gilligan's Island

^^ Yup, I saw that.

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I don't think Gilligan's Island deserves the scorn it gets, certainly not in an era where popular entertainment is dominated by degrading "reality" shows and sharknadoes.
I agree. It was a well-written, 60s-style parable of people coming together. A blue-collar seaman, a Right-Wing industrialist, a liberal intellectual college professor, an upper-crust society woman, a mid-western farm girl, a Hollywood glamor queen, and a simple, naive innocent who saved the day as often as he screwed up. They represented a variety of backgrounds and social classes and they were always in conflict, but they loved each other and would come to each others' aid at the drop of a hat.

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I remember an interview Johnson did a few years back. He said Alan Hale was a sweetheart, always smiling, always slapping you on the back with a hearty laugh. Jim Bacchus would tell dirty jokes on set, a new one everyday. And Bobby Denver (as everyone called him) took his role as series star very seriously, going through every script to make sure his fellows were given equal screen time and material.
He was also the one who pressured the producers behind the scenes to add Russell Johnson and Dawn Wells to the main credits, which they didn't even know for many years. Pretty much everyone on the show, except maybe Tina Louse, was a really nice person.

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Actually, Christopher, I'm not misinformed. I did err in referencing the unaired pilot, but the character descriptions are genuine. They're from the original Gilligan's Island treatment. The characters had changed after this first iteration and were on their second go-around when the pilot was filmed, as you stated above. The characters changed again, iteration three, into how we know them today.

There is a series of shorts called Gilligan's Island: Before the Three Hour Tour which detail the following:

The Professor was originally a writer.
The Howells were not millionaires.
Ginger was a secretary, and Bunny was a store clerk.
Gilligan was a Navy cook who knew nothing about the sea. He lied about his background to get the job aboard the Minnow, as the Skipper's regular first mate had crapped out.
This is interesting. Do you have any links to the original treatment?
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Old January 19 2014, 07:36 PM   #37
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The shorts can be found on You Tube. Do a quick search for Gilligan's Island - Before the Three Hour Tour. Each of the characters has one.
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Old January 20 2014, 10:41 AM   #38
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Found 'em. Thanks for the tip.
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Old January 25 2014, 10:25 PM   #39
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I don't think Gilligan's Island deserves the scorn it gets, certainly not in an era where popular entertainment is dominated by degrading "reality" shows and sharknadoes. .
What's more, it was an educated man who led the group. Imagine that in todays world when you hear things like "something called volcano monitoring"
http://www.livescience.com/5334-gov-...onitoring.html

If only we had kept the professor instead of Bobby Jindal...

That gives me an idea for a Gilligan sequel involving Tea Party members trapped on an island. They don't believe the professor about typhoons and the island volcano, refuse to accept his vaccination, and suffer the consequences--oh, wait--it's called Congress.
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Old January 25 2014, 10:44 PM   #40
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Well, the Howells were part of the one percent. Although I guess on the island they would've been the 28.6 percent.
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Old January 25 2014, 11:58 PM   #41
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I'm so sad about this.

So many of the stars of of my childhood are gone.
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Old January 26 2014, 01:30 AM   #42
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RIP Russell I always enjoyed you on Gilligan's Island.
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